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windwork · 11-17-2003, 09:59 AM

I am using the Antec 1080 Case

There is a place on the side for a case fan.
is it a good idea to use it or not?

and what are good temperatures for:
system
cpu
what is the lowest degree C someone can get for an athlon 2500+ using air cooling?

nocturnx · 11-17-2003, 10:07 AM

I have a side case fan, i get lower temps when using it. cpu temps could run from 30C to 60C depending on type and room temperature. My Pentium 4 runs at 43C usually and gets up to 55-57C after hours of heavy load. My system temp is usually around 30-35C.

windwork · 11-17-2003, 10:25 AM

oh thats cool

so do you have the side fan blowing air INSIDE the case, or is it blowing the air OUTSIDE ?

Cricket · 11-17-2003, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by windwork
There is a place on the side for a case fan.
is it a good idea to use it or not?

That's really up to you. If you install a fan there your case temps will probably go down, but case noise will go up.

Quote:

Originally posted by windwork
what is the lowest degree C someone can get for an athlon 2500+ using air cooling?

With air cooling? Room temperature would be the lowest a CPU could get with just air cooling (of course, the computer would be off).

Cricket

Wrnchhead76 · 11-17-2003, 01:38 PM

It should blow into the case, the rear fans pull a vacuum in the case, and having fans in the side and rear really help the air to flow through the case. i saw decent temp drops with just taking out one of my drive bay covers, as the rear fans were pulling vacuum in the case, and had no supply of good clean air from the outside. So adding a fan that pushes it in from the side or front really help flow. Let us know your number when you get it done.

windwork · 11-17-2003, 07:06 PM

thanks a lot for your help.
I read this a little too late.

I already removed the side case fan that came with antec 1080 case and put it over the hard drives.

I will buy another good fan like vantec stealth and use that for side blowing air inside the case.

now i am wondering, will a lot of dust come in because of that?
antec has a fliter for the front fans, but there is no filter for the side case fan.

Fastfly · 11-17-2003, 07:07 PM

Cricket cant it actually get colder.....with it creating a vacuum or something...I thought we had a thread about this one time.

Cricket · 11-17-2003, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fastfly
Cricket cant it actually get colder.....with it creating a vacuum or something...I thought we had a thread about this one time.

The CPU? Colder than room temperature? I don't think so since the CPU will be generating heat (if the computer is on). To get the CPU colder than room temperature (while it's running) would require liquid nitrogen, chilled water cooling or maybe a Peltier could get it to run cooler than room temperature...but not with air cooling.

Cricket

windwork · 11-17-2003, 07:31 PM

oh ok.
so if my room temperature is 30C, then my system cant get 24C or 25C with air cooling?

right now my room is pretty warm.

Fastfly · 11-17-2003, 07:32 PM

Well I was talking when its off.....just thinking

Pretty sure cold side of a peltier gets below -0C ohwell.

windwork · 11-17-2003, 07:35 PM

so does that means that my room temperature can be 31C, and the comp system temperature can be 29C, using air cooling?

Cricket · 11-17-2003, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fastfly
Well I was talking when its off.....just thinking

Oh, when the computer is off? I never really thought about it.

Cricket

Wrnchhead76 · 11-17-2003, 09:14 PM

Well from personal experience and from what i think makes sense, having a volume of air flowing is a better cooler than a vacuum. As for the dust issue, there will be some, but i haven't had too much more than normal if any. In the vacuum condition i noticed that there was a ton around the edges. IMO

Fastfly · 11-17-2003, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cricket
Oh, when the computer is off? I never really thought about it.

Cricket

Why it would matter since its off.....beats me

Alfie · 11-18-2003, 01:57 PM

With air cooling one can expect the case temp to run approx.
10f higher than room temperature.
CPU temps will run in accordance with case temp.
If room temp is high,the same passes to case and cpu.
If a way could be devised to run cold air into case,all temps would drop!
I have found regardless of heatsinks,fans,etc.,
room temperature or air supply to case is the most crucial element in cooling computers.

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nocturnx The Boneshaker Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,266	I have a side case fan, i get lower temps when using it. cpu temps could run from 30C to 60C depending on type and room temperature. My Pentium 4 runs at 43C usually and gets up to 55-57C after hours of heavy load. My system temp is usually around 30-35C. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Leave it to me as I find a way to be Consider me a satellite, forever orbiting I knew all the rules, but the rules did not know me Guaranteed ---Eddie Vedder, “Guaranteed”. Rest in Peace, Evan. 2.11.71 - 9.8.08

11-17-2003, 10:25 AM	#3
windwork Member (7 bit) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 71	oh thats cool so do you have the side fan blowing air INSIDE the case, or is it blowing the air OUTSIDE ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-17-2003, 01:38 PM	#5
Wrnchhead76 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 138	It should blow into the case, the rear fans pull a vacuum in the case, and having fans in the side and rear really help the air to flow through the case. i saw decent temp drops with just taking out one of my drive bay covers, as the rear fans were pulling vacuum in the case, and had no supply of good clean air from the outside. So adding a fan that pushes it in from the side or front really help flow. Let us know your number when you get it done. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-17-2003, 07:06 PM	#6
windwork Member (7 bit) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 71	thanks a lot for your help. I read this a little too late. I already removed the side case fan that came with antec 1080 case and put it over the hard drives. I will buy another good fan like vantec stealth and use that for side blowing air inside the case. now i am wondering, will a lot of dust come in because of that? antec has a fliter for the front fans, but there is no filter for the side case fan. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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11-17-2003, 07:07 PM	#7
Fastfly Aerospace Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: MN, USA Posts: 1,177	Cricket cant it actually get colder.....with it creating a vacuum or something...I thought we had a thread about this one time. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ FastFly

11-17-2003, 07:31 PM	#9
windwork Member (7 bit) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 71	oh ok. so if my room temperature is 30C, then my system cant get 24C or 25C with air cooling? right now my room is pretty warm. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-17-2003, 07:32 PM	#10
Fastfly Aerospace Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: MN, USA Posts: 1,177	Well I was talking when its off.....just thinking Pretty sure cold side of a peltier gets below -0C ohwell. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-17-2003, 07:35 PM	#11
windwork Member (7 bit) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 71	so does that means that my room temperature can be 31C, and the comp system temperature can be 29C, using air cooling? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-17-2003, 09:14 PM	#13
Wrnchhead76 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 138	Well from personal experience and from what i think makes sense, having a volume of air flowing is a better cooler than a vacuum. As for the dust issue, there will be some, but i haven't had too much more than normal if any. In the vacuum condition i noticed that there was a ton around the edges. IMO Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

11-18-2003, 01:57 PM	#15
Alfie Member (13 bit) Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 4,954	With air cooling one can expect the case temp to run approx. 10f higher than room temperature. CPU temps will run in accordance with case temp. If room temp is high,the same passes to case and cpu. If a way could be devised to run cold air into case,all temps would drop! I have found regardless of heatsinks,fans,etc., room temperature or air supply to case is the most crucial element in cooling computers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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