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enhanced08 · 12-07-2003, 06:13 PM

what is the Atjlon 64 FX-51 CPU? i just heard about it a few days ago. its more expensive than the 64 3200+ so is it newer and better??

HAL9000 had a nice post awhile ago about different Intel chips (Link), could someone post something like that about AMD chips? it seems like AMD has about 500 different chips! lol

Quote:

Originally posted by HAL9000
I can't say that I'm up to speed on the AMD chips... so I'll let one of the AMD guys here list those out... but for Intel, you have

Celerons... all of them are on a 400Mhz FSB and currently goes up to 2.8Ghz... all have a 128k cache

P4 400Mhz FSB processors.... available up to 2.8Ghz. Willamette cores with 256k cache, Northwood cores with 512k cache.

P4 533Mhz FSB processors available up to 3.06Ghz all with 512k cache. Only the 3.06 has hyperthreading

P4 800Mhz FSB processors available in 200Mhz increments from 2.4Ghz to 3.2Ghz all with 512k cache... all with hyperthreading.

P4 3.2Ghz EE. Extreme Edition P4... 800Mhz FSB, 512k L2 cache, 2MB L3 cache, hyperthreading... essentially a Xeon with an 800Mhz FSB in P4 packaging.

sakeo · 12-07-2003, 06:20 PM

the fx is the new amd chip
lvl 3 cache added and fsb goes up the 1600 (200Xtoo many for me to count

)

fx are opterons in a desktop packaging... just like the ee is a xeon. they perform better and can be oced higher.

they use registered ram on the present socket but as soon as 939 is here they won't be using reg ram anymore

the fx-53 is awaited by the end of this week btw

Glaive · 12-08-2003, 03:06 AM

The FX chips also support Dual Channel DDR, which the regular Athlon 64s do not.

They are also multipllier unlocked, not that they can OC very high.

enhanced08 · 12-08-2003, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by Glaive
The FX chips also support Dual Channel DDR, which the regular Athlon 64s do not.

They are also multipllier unlocked, not that they can OC very high.

arn't all AMD CPUs mulitolier unlocked?

Cricket · 12-08-2003, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by enhanced08dotcom
arn't all AMD CPUs mulitolier unlocked?

Nope.

Cricket

enhanced08 · 12-08-2003, 04:00 PM

is the fx the only one that is? because i always thought AMD was unlocked and Intel was locked.

largosama · 12-08-2003, 04:13 PM

I know my AMD athlon 2400 was unlocked... somehow... but I never wanted to overclock it yet... Don't need to until my friend upgrades his dell.. Then I'll show off.... haha..

Also, the AMD athlon fx runs at 2.2 ghz currently and is pretty much an opteron for us regular comp users. The motherboard support is going up, but before anything happens, they change the socket to ONE less pin.. thats funny

sakeo · 12-08-2003, 08:17 PM

the fx and the a64 are both unlocked

jimmyrules712 · 12-08-2003, 10:33 PM

Im assuming you dont care for anything before the athlon XP.

The XP 1500 through the 2400, as well as the 2600 non barton version, all run on a FSB of 266.
the 2500 barton, 2600 barton, and all the Athlon XP's after that(except the 2700 non barton) run at 333 FSB until the XP 3000, which runs at 400 fsb, as well as the 3200

for reference the Lowest athlon XP, the 1500, runs at 1.33 ghz, the 1800 at 1.53, the 2200 at 1.8, the 2500 1.83, the 2800 2.083, and the 3200 2.2.

the 3200 has 128k L1 cache, and 512 k L2 cache
same with the 3000 and 2800
the 2700 (non barton) has 128k L1 cache, and 256 L2 cache.
the 2600 barton uses 128k L1 cache, and 512 L2 cache
2500 is same as 2600
the 2400 (everything after this is not Barton) uses 128k L1 cache, 256 L2

the 1500 through the 2400 are all the same.

is this the info you wanted?

sakeo · 12-08-2003, 11:17 PM

there is a 3000 with 400fsb? I was thinking they only did it with 333fsb so it's 166 X 13, what is the 400fsb multi? 11?

David M · 12-08-2003, 11:25 PM

AMD has a decent description of its FX-51

[url]http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/

RHLinuxGUY · 12-08-2003, 11:37 PM

Wait, doesnt the Athlon FX-64 have something called quad-pumping? I read that the Athlon FX, and the 3200+ have this meaning they only have a 400Mhz FSB, but it is multiplied by the speed of the ram. ex. 400Mhz FSB x DDR3200, or 400Mhz= 1600, right or am I wrong? correct me if I am wrong.

ric449 · 12-09-2003, 04:20 AM

Intel have quad pumping, not AMD.

Azerael · 12-09-2003, 08:20 AM

To answer your very first question, the FX line is going to be the big bucks of 64bit processors where the others are going to be specialized more for the general buyer. A good analogy is the comparison between celeron and pentium.

enhanced08 · 12-09-2003, 08:47 PM

ok, guys thanks! yes jimmy that is what i wanted. thanks!

12-07-2003, 06:20 PM	#2
sakeo Member (9 bit) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 357	the fx is the new amd chip lvl 3 cache added and fsb goes up the 1600 (200Xtoo many for me to count ) fx are opterons in a desktop packaging... just like the ee is a xeon. they perform better and can be oced higher. they use registered ram on the present socket but as soon as 939 is here they won't be using reg ram anymore the fx-53 is awaited by the end of this week btw Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-08-2003, 03:06 AM	#3
Glaive Member (8 bit) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 1986, I think Posts: 200	The FX chips also support Dual Channel DDR, which the regular Athlon 64s do not. They are also multipllier unlocked, not that they can OC very high. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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enhanced08 Foldin' For PCMech! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: back home in McHenry MD Posts: 1,657	is the fx the only one that is? because i always thought AMD was unlocked and Intel was locked. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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largosama Member (9 bit) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: not-disclosed Posts: 449	I know my AMD athlon 2400 was unlocked... somehow... but I never wanted to overclock it yet... Don't need to until my friend upgrades his dell.. Then I'll show off.... haha.. Also, the AMD athlon fx runs at 2.2 ghz currently and is pretty much an opteron for us regular comp users. The motherboard support is going up, but before anything happens, they change the socket to ONE less pin.. thats funny Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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sakeo Member (9 bit) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 357	the fx and the a64 are both unlocked Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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12-08-2003, 10:33 PM	#9
jimmyrules712 Member (11 bit) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,060	Im assuming you dont care for anything before the athlon XP. The XP 1500 through the 2400, as well as the 2600 non barton version, all run on a FSB of 266. the 2500 barton, 2600 barton, and all the Athlon XP's after that(except the 2700 non barton) run at 333 FSB until the XP 3000, which runs at 400 fsb, as well as the 3200 for reference the Lowest athlon XP, the 1500, runs at 1.33 ghz, the 1800 at 1.53, the 2200 at 1.8, the 2500 1.83, the 2800 2.083, and the 3200 2.2. the 3200 has 128k L1 cache, and 512 k L2 cache same with the 3000 and 2800 the 2700 (non barton) has 128k L1 cache, and 256 L2 cache. the 2600 barton uses 128k L1 cache, and 512 L2 cache 2500 is same as 2600 the 2400 (everything after this is not Barton) uses 128k L1 cache, 256 L2 the 1500 through the 2400 are all the same. is this the info you wanted? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-08-2003, 11:17 PM	#10
sakeo Member (9 bit) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 357	there is a 3000 with 400fsb? I was thinking they only did it with 333fsb so it's 166 X 13, what is the 400fsb multi? 11? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-08-2003, 11:25 PM	#11
David M Techphile. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Posts: 5,959	AMD has a decent description of its FX-51 [url]http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/ Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Last edited by David M; 12-08-2003 at 11:27 PM.

12-08-2003, 11:37 PM	#12
RHLinuxGUY Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So-Cal Posts: 85	Wait, doesnt the Athlon FX-64 have something called quad-pumping? I read that the Athlon FX, and the 3200+ have this meaning they only have a 400Mhz FSB, but it is multiplied by the speed of the ram. ex. 400Mhz FSB x DDR3200, or 400Mhz= 1600, right or am I wrong? correct me if I am wrong. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-09-2003, 04:20 AM	#13
ric449 Member (12 bit) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,374	Intel Intel have quad pumping, not AMD. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-09-2003, 08:20 AM	#14
Azerael Member (7 bit) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 90	To answer your very first question, the FX line is going to be the big bucks of 64bit processors where the others are going to be specialized more for the general buyer. A good analogy is the comparison between celeron and pentium. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-09-2003, 08:47 PM	#15
enhanced08 Foldin' For PCMech! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: back home in McHenry MD Posts: 1,657	ok, guys thanks! yes jimmy that is what i wanted. thanks! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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