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Alaron · 05-25-2006, 09:34 PM

Leathrneck, this thread is for information only. Start your own thread so we can help you out. Be sure to include full system specs, including brand and wattage of the power supply.

Ichimaru · 07-07-2006, 11:53 PM

Quick question:

The last zip file was from 04...is it still relevant? I'm working on a new build and about to choose a CPU and motherboard. But there's stuff like DDR2 and dual-cores and stuff now so I was just wondering if the spreadsheet is still useful.

indy · 09-21-2006, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Force Flow

Revision 3

The Intel D865GBF has gotten a lot of good feedback on the boards here, so I'm adding it to the list.

Here's revision 3:

The file motherboards rev3.zip can be unzipped and viewed using what utility? I have tried a couple different ones but have not been successful.

Cricket · 09-21-2006, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indy

The file motherboards rev3.zip can be unzipped and viewed using what utility? I have tried a couple different ones but have not been successful.

Did you download it to your computer first?

I can unzip the file with WinZip.

Cricket

firefinch · 10-04-2006, 04:55 PM

Hi people,

Is it just me who's finding probs with opening the zip files? I downloaded the three of them to my HD however when I try to open them I am being prompted that the file is invalid or corrupt.

indy · 10-05-2006, 11:32 AM

I guess it isn't me. I have tried by downloading all three to my hard drive several times and using WinZip to unzip. No go it said the files were invalid or corrupt. I then used SystemSuite Version 6 to unzip them. It reported that they were unzipped but empty!!!!! Is there a different source for these files?

MiceElf · 10-25-2006, 10:53 AM

I'm also having problems opening the zip file. "Corrupted" or "Empty"

I guess I don't really know what it is I'm missing but It thought it looked to be interesting to me, and others.
Thanks,
MiceElf

***glc*** · 10-25-2006, 12:21 PM

Direct link to the latest:

http://forum.pcmech.com/attachment.p...5&d=1099082002

This is a standard zip file, inside the archive is an Excel file. It just downloaded, unzipped, and opened in Excel just fine for me. Note that the info in there is pretty stale.

strent · 11-10-2006, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Force Flow

Chart attached below...

hellow i'm new to this internet business & a new comer to u'r site, please 4 give me, and thanks 4 u'r help where necessary.
this thing about posting on our site what's it & how do i go about doing so.
secondly i' m doing this project 4 class & looking 4 some specs on computers 4 office, archiotecture, education & scientific environment please can you give some guidance, thanks in advance i'll be gratefull.

Cricket · 11-10-2006, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strent

this thing about posting on our site what's it & how do i go about doing so.
secondly i' m doing this project 4 class & looking 4 some specs on computers 4 office, archiotecture, education & scientific environment please can you give some guidance, thanks in advance i'll be gratefull.

Go to the "Build Your Own PC" forum and ask these questions there.

Cricket

pilot_rulz · 03-13-2007, 04:37 AM

which one motherboard would be better

ECS P4M800PRO-M-V2.0 (sounds, looks, and seems better)

or

Intel D102GGC2 (my current one, no oc'ing cappabilities except through software)

I know there both not the best, but which one would be a better choice? as they both are good but bad. which eaquals ok lol.

***glc*** · 03-13-2007, 06:51 AM

Pilot_rulz, please read the thread before posting - this is NOT a thread to use to get assistance!!!!!!

**freakitchen** · 03-13-2007, 06:54 AM

ECS boards aren't good quality, Intel boards are. I wouldn't choose an ECS over an Intel, regardless of the features it offers.

Pilot, I notice you've started quite a few threads on various issues recently. If you're planning on an upgrade with a new motherboard, it would make sense if you start a new thread and keep every question you have in regards to it in that one thread. You'll get the best advice this way. From your above post, all I can advise you on is quality - I've no idea what you're wanting to do with this upgrade.

FK

***glc*** · 03-13-2007, 08:24 AM

The D102GGC2 has an ATI chipset - it's not the same quality as a real Intel board with an Intel chipset. It's a farmed out 3rd party price leader. The ECS is total junk - it's ECS and it has a Via chipset.

ejq29 · 04-10-2007, 04:49 AM

Hi guys,

I'm ejq29, newbie in PC Mech.

Got any comments on MSI motherboards? Can you compare ASUS boards with MSI boards so I can have an idea what to use? Thanks!

ejq29

**freakitchen** · 04-10-2007, 06:00 AM

I personally wouldn't have a problem building a system with an MSI board. But round about 2002 (I think), MSI boards went through a period of quality control problems; the capacitors on their boards were leaking and causing system failure. This was a fault of the manufacturer of the capacitors, and not MSI, but bad press sticks around in the computer world.

ASUS, on the other hand, have made top quality motherboards for a long time now. Even if they are a few more $ than an MSI equivalent, I'd spend those few more $ on such an important component.

ejq29 · 04-11-2007, 04:53 AM

Hi Freakitchen,

Thanks for the information!

Do you think MSI still has the same problem on their boards?

Thanks again!

ejq29

**freakitchen** · 04-11-2007, 06:10 AM

No, I've not heard of any recurring problems with MSI boards for a while now. If I had the opportunity to buy an ASUS board, then I would, but I'd put MSI in the next 'tier' of quality, along with Gigabyte.

**Panama Red** · 04-11-2007, 07:36 AM

I built a few pc's with MSI socket 754 mobo's early last year and had no trouble with them. They continue to run trouble free for my customers using Sempron cpu's.

ejq29 · 04-13-2007, 02:42 PM

Thank you guys for the information!

ejq29

human1987 · 06-03-2007, 10:50 AM

i cant open the file using excel..

rv15m · 06-06-2007, 04:44 PM

Hi, I realize that most ppl are getting problems with opening the zip files attached in these threads (I really don't know why that is happening). I found that using a different zip program can open them though. It's called http://www.7-zip.org/. Hope it works for you all too.

human1987 · 06-06-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rv15m

Hi, I realize that most ppl are getting problems with opening the zip files attached in these threads (I really don't know why that is happening). I found that using a different zip program can open them though. It's called http://www.7-zip.org/. Hope it works for you all too.

I tried unzipping using 7-zip, but the file is still not valid. It is not an excel file and when I open using Excel, it shows some weird text as of above msg attached screenshot.

10-25-2006, 10:53 AM	#97
MiceElf Member (3 bit) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6	Zip file Problem I'm also having problems opening the zip file. "Corrupted" or "Empty" I guess I don't really know what it is I'm missing but It thought it looked to be interesting to me, and others. Thanks, MiceElf

03-13-2007, 06:54 AM	#103
freakitchen Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hull, UK Posts: 3,587	ECS boards aren't good quality, Intel boards are. I wouldn't choose an ECS over an Intel, regardless of the features it offers. Pilot, I notice you've started quite a few threads on various issues recently. If you're planning on an upgrade with a new motherboard, it would make sense if you start a new thread and keep every question you have in regards to it in that one thread. You'll get the best advice this way. From your above post, all I can advise you on is quality - I've no idea what you're wanting to do with this upgrade. FK __________________ -FK- "Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw, The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die, We shall not sleep, though poppies grow, In Flanders fields." - John McCrae, May 1915

04-10-2007, 04:49 AM	#105
ejq29 Member (4 bit) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 12	Hi guys, I'm ejq29, newbie in PC Mech. Got any comments on MSI motherboards? Can you compare ASUS boards with MSI boards so I can have an idea what to use? Thanks! ejq29 __________________ CPU: AMD Athlon X2 RAM: Kingston 512Mb DDR2 VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon X1600 256Mb/128bit MOTHERBOARD: MSI K9 Neo HDD: Seagate 80 Gb SATA ROM: LG CD/DVD-ROM, CD Writer

04-11-2007, 07:36 AM	#109
Panama Red Served with Pride Staff Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: near the left coast of Michigan Posts: 14,654	I built a few pc's with MSI socket 754 mobo's early last year and had no trouble with them. They continue to run trouble free for my customers using Sempron cpu's. __________________ Getting old is not for sissies!

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05-25-2006, 09:34 PM	#91
Alaron Kickin' it Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 7,724	Leathrneck, this thread is for information only. Start your own thread so we can help you out. Be sure to include full system specs, including brand and wattage of the power supply.

07-07-2006, 11:53 PM	#92
Ichimaru Member (4 bit) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 14	Quick question: The last zip file was from 04...is it still relevant? I'm working on a new build and about to choose a CPU and motherboard. But there's stuff like DDR2 and dual-cores and stuff now so I was just wondering if the spreadsheet is still useful.

10-04-2006, 04:55 PM	#95
firefinch Member (3 bit) Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7	Hi people, Is it just me who's finding probs with opening the zip files? I downloaded the three of them to my HD however when I try to open them I am being prompted that the file is invalid or corrupt.

10-05-2006, 11:32 AM	#96
indy Member (4 bit) Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Chesterton, IN USA Posts: 11	I guess it isn't me. I have tried by downloading all three to my hard drive several times and using WinZip to unzip. No go it said the files were invalid or corrupt. I then used SystemSuite Version 6 to unzip them. It reported that they were unzipped but empty!!!!! Is there a different source for these files?

10-25-2006, 12:21 PM	#98
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 41,159	Direct link to the latest: http://forum.pcmech.com/attachment.p...5&d=1099082002 This is a standard zip file, inside the archive is an Excel file. It just downloaded, unzipped, and opened in Excel just fine for me. Note that the info in there is pretty stale.

03-13-2007, 04:37 AM	#101
pilot_rulz Member (6 bit) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wyoming Posts: 58	which one motherboard would be better ECS P4M800PRO-M-V2.0 (sounds, looks, and seems better) or Intel D102GGC2 (my current one, no oc'ing cappabilities except through software) I know there both not the best, but which one would be a better choice? as they both are good but bad. which eaquals ok lol.

03-13-2007, 06:51 AM	#102
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 41,159	Pilot_rulz, please read the thread before posting - this is NOT a thread to use to get assistance!!!!!!

03-13-2007, 08:24 AM	#104
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 41,159	The D102GGC2 has an ATI chipset - it's not the same quality as a real Intel board with an Intel chipset. It's a farmed out 3rd party price leader. The ECS is total junk - it's ECS and it has a Via chipset.

04-10-2007, 06:00 AM	#106
freakitchen Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hull, UK Posts: 3,587	I personally wouldn't have a problem building a system with an MSI board. But round about 2002 (I think), MSI boards went through a period of quality control problems; the capacitors on their boards were leaking and causing system failure. This was a fault of the manufacturer of the capacitors, and not MSI, but bad press sticks around in the computer world. ASUS, on the other hand, have made top quality motherboards for a long time now. Even if they are a few more $ than an MSI equivalent, I'd spend those few more $ on such an important component.

04-11-2007, 04:53 AM	#107
ejq29 Member (4 bit) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 12	Hi Freakitchen, Thanks for the information! Do you think MSI still has the same problem on their boards? Thanks again! ejq29

04-11-2007, 06:10 AM	#108
freakitchen Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hull, UK Posts: 3,587	No, I've not heard of any recurring problems with MSI boards for a while now. If I had the opportunity to buy an ASUS board, then I would, but I'd put MSI in the next 'tier' of quality, along with Gigabyte.

04-13-2007, 02:42 PM	#110
ejq29 Member (4 bit) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 12	Thank you guys for the information! ejq29

06-06-2007, 04:44 PM	#112
rv15m Member (6 bit) Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 41	Hi, I realize that most ppl are getting problems with opening the zip files attached in these threads (I really don't know why that is happening). I found that using a different zip program can open them though. It's called http://www.7-zip.org/. Hope it works for you all too.

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