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[kram 2.0]

Originally Posted by ric449 I'm just trying to say there is no need to rush out and buy a 64 bit processor.

Exactly. So if your intention of your system use is immediately after it is built, there is no point in getting a 64-bit processor just for the sake of the 64-bit FSB.

kram

[Cricket]

Forget all the AMD vs. Intel stuff...just use a VIA C3 processor .

Cricket

[ric449]

Originally Posted by kram8806 there is no point in getting a 64-bit processor just for the sake of the 64-bit FSB. kram

What do you mean by 64 bit FSB? FSB's are 64 bit single channel DDR, 128 bit dual channel DDR, regardless if it is a 64 bit processor or not. A 64 bit processor is defined by its internal workings, most notably the internal registers.

[kram 2.0]

Originally Posted by ric449 What do you mean by 64 bit FSB? FSB's are 64 bit single channel DDR, 128 bit dual channel DDR, regardless if it is a 64 bit processor or not. A 64 bit processor is defined by its internal workings, most notably the internal registers.

64-bit registers were there long before full 64-bit Front side buswidth was launched. The EDB and the registers were 64-bit - it was the address bus that wasn't. Combine those all together and you get a 64-bit FSB.

kram

[ric449]

Originally Posted by kram8806 64-bit registers were there long before full 64-bit Front side buswidth was launched. The EDB and the registers were 64-bit - it was the address bus that wasn't. Combine those all together and you get a 64-bit FSB. kram

I still don't see how FSB fits into it. Intel's P4 FSB is 64 bit (when it is using single channel memory access), but that isn't a 64 bit processor. Also, EDB has nothing to do with 64 bit either, its just something thats there. A 64 bit processor could exist without it. Here is what I copied from a book, upgrading and repairing PC's:

Pentium 4
Internal register size: 32 bit
Data bus width: 64 bit
Max memory: 64GB

AMD Athlon XP
Internal register size: 32 bit
Data bus width: 64 bit
Max memory: 4GB

AMD Opteron
Internal register size: 64 bit
Data bus width: 128 bit
Max memory: 1TB

Intel Itanium
Internal register size: 64 bit
Data bus width: 64 bit
Max memory: 16TB

Intel Itanium 2
Internal register size: 64 bit
Data bus width: 128 bit
Max memory: 16TB

P4 and Athlon XP have 64 bit buses, they aren't 64 bit. But they do have 32 bit registers, so they are 32 bit processors. Opteron and Itanium 2 have 64 bit registers, they are 64 bit processors. They both have a 128 bit data bus, but they aren't 128 bit processors.

[kram 2.0]

I PM'ed the response Ric - I do not wish to Hijack this thread any further.

Thanks.
kram

[fedz]

How about you start a new thread? I'd be interested to see where this debate goes...
Could you PM your answer to me Kram?

fedz

[Panama Red]

ITlover, please start a new thread. This thread is stickied for reference purposes. I'm removing your post.

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[Powersuppy]

If you really want to know, go to an AMD or Intel support forum, and they'll have answers for you.

[ITlover]

Sorry for the interruption guys, just wanted to know that is their any difference between AMD and Celeron or are they both the same?

I hope I am not asking any stupid question

Appreciate any prompt reply

Regards,

[Panama Red]

ITlover, as I stated a couple of posts above to you back in April, please start a new thread rather than post a question in this stickied thread.

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[fedz]

To answer your question celeron is Intel's budget range of processors, so yo'd be hard pressed to find a AMD 64 CPU that is as bad as a celeron. AMD instead has Semprons. which are comparable in performance

fedz

[someolboy]

Originally Posted by Panama Red Wow, they'll sell a ton of those at that price, right? Oh wait, at 50 cents/hour wages how long does it take to save up $250??!!!!

Good point Panama, however have you considered this...

After most of us lose our jobs, because "they" work for 50 cents an hour, nobody here will be able to afford one.....

Corporate America cut off the hand that feeds you &
you cut your own throats ...

... go ahead, keep sending the jobs over seas ...

Global economy my #%$ ...

Last one leaving the U.S. to go work in China, please turn off the lights...

[secrecyguy]

After reading couple of message posts and articles, I take it that AMD 64 is similar to Pentium 4. Am I right?

Is there any other AMD chips similar to Pentium 4?

Which AMD chip is similar to a Intel Centrino? I couldn't find any information on that.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by secrecyguy After reading couple of message posts and articles, I take it that AMD 64 is similar to Pentium 4. Am I right?

Well...yes and no. The Athlon 64 is AMD's flagship processor (for the desktop) and the Pentium 4 is Intel's flagship processor (for the desktop) so they're both the same in that respect...but the Athlon 64 is a 64 bit processor where the Pentium 4s are not 64 bit, they're 32 bit (but some can emulate 64 bit processing).

Originally Posted by secrecyguy Is there any other AMD chips similar to Pentium 4?

The older Athlon line and the newer Sempron line (which is actually competition for the Intel Celeron line but performance wise it can hold up against older Pentium 4s).

Originally Posted by secrecyguy Which AMD chip is similar to a Intel Centrino? I couldn't find any information on that.

Centrino isn't a CPU, it's a technology involving mobile CPUs and the corresponding support chipset designed to give good performance while keeping laptop battery usage to a minimum.

Cricket

[secrecyguy]

Thanks for the answer.

[secrecyguy]

ok... I have another question...

I was looking around and I noticed that sometimes they say Celeron M or Centrino M. But sometimes, I see Pentium M used by itself without the words Celeron or Centrino.

I know M stand for Mobile.

So if it is by itself, what does it mean?

[secrecyguy]

Originally Posted by secrecyguy ok... I have another question... I was looking around and I noticed that sometimes they say Celeron M or Centrino M. But sometimes, I see Pentium M used by itself without the words Celeron or Centrino. I know M stand for Mobile. So if it is by itself, what does it mean?

hmmm... no answer...

I guess I have rephrase that question. I guess I wasn't clear what I meant by that.

Is Pentium M just like Centrino?

[glc]

Centrinos *use* Pentium-M processors. Centrino is NOT a processor, it's a whole chipset solution. Anyone that says Centrino-M is misusing the terminology.

[secrecyguy]

Originally Posted by glc Centrinos *use* Pentium-M processors. Centrino is NOT a processor, it's a whole chipset solution. Anyone that says Centrino-M is misusing the terminology.

Ok... thanks... that answers my question.

[esflies]

I'm sorry, but a titles only seacrch for Intel vs AMD found nothing. I must be searching wrong. Any help?

Thanks

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by esflies I'm sorry, but a titles only seacrch for Intel vs AMD found nothing. I must be searching wrong. Any help? Thanks

You're not going to find many threads about "Intel vs AMD" because those types of threads are frowned upon here.

Cricket

[esflies]

I'm sorry, but a titles only seacrch for Intel vs AMD found nothing. I must be searching wrong. Any help?

Thanks

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by esflies I'm sorry, but a titles only seacrch for Intel vs AMD found nothing. I must be searching wrong. Any help?

Again, you're not going to find many threads about "Intel vs AMD" because those types of threads are frowned upon here.

Or are you searching the net for that information?

Cricket

[esflies]

Apologies for the double post - new here.

Didn't know "AMD vs Intel" was frowned on here, just trying to follow Icallmedan's directions

ES

[kosova]

Originally Posted by esflies Apologies for the double post - new here. Didn't know "AMD vs Intel" was frowned on here, just trying to follow Icallmedan's directions ES

read this
net search

[icallmedan]

Basically it comes down to this:

Both brands are very good.

If you plan to do more gaming, you might want to take and extra look at AMD. If you plan to do more video editing and multi-threaded applications, you may want to look at Intel.

Now-a-days, both processors will probably serve you equally as well, especially if you are a pretty average computer user (one who does a mix of things).

[ralynam]

yeah the sticky worked because i was about to post same thread now ill just check it out myself

[Norry]

I tried your search suggestion "Intel vs. AMD" but it came back unable to find a match.

[PCgamerX]

umm i just typed in the search box intel vs. AMD and nothing came up. is there something im missing here??? o btw, which is better, intel or AMD? IM JOKING IM JOKING. but this is a very good thread.