"Bin Laden not a Dirtbag"

[erucader]

well, im not saying the the US is plain wrong, just that the US is to be blamed when they are at fault. in this situation (i hope) they are not.

[KR0316]

Originally posted by Sauron But, why does America have to bomb the whole country for one man? Blame one mans faults on the whole country?

We aren't bombing a whole country for one man. We are bombing sections of a country that is currently harbouring other terrorists that are trained or in training to kill Americans. We are bombing Al Quaida terrorist training camps that right now have leftover Taliban and Al Quaida members regrouping to strike against us. We have to finish the job because of what we learned from not finishing in Iraq with Bush Sr. Now we have Saddam Hussein also regrouping to strike at us because we didn't finish our objective. These people have vowed to kill every westerner alive in the honor of their god no matter what the means and no matter how long it takes. Sick and twisted as it sounds it is the reality of the whole thing. We are not at war with Osama Bin Laden we are at war with terrorism and he is a good starting point because of his attacks against us in the last few years.

[mairving]

Gee Whiz, bombing a country for one man. Bush made it quite simple. Give us Bin Laden or suffer the consequences. They chose the later. That was a bad decision. So it is not one man, it is a whole network of vile corrupt terrorists in control of a country that we targeted. Hey, I don't see anyone over there sad to see the Taliban gone, except for Omar and Bin Laden.

Where also are the hundreds of thousands dead?
Remote controlled planes, huh?

These are all a part of the Kathaksung conspiracy.

[kraken]

The free world is not just the US. We down under are as guilty of supporting those who bit back as the US is for feeding them.

Propaganda aside, terrorism is the rule of fear. No human or animal on the face of this earth should be subjected to this.

Any intellegent living creature who seeks to rule over others through the force of fear, should be eradicated from the lives of those they seek to oppress.

Bin head is one of those, a collection of garbage thoughts that should be thrown out as trash. An over laden bin spews forth corrupting vile disease ridden junk that only sickens us all.

The only way to clean house is to remove said trash to the pile of rotting stench in the hole in the ground.

Death to terror and all those who hold it dear.

[satan]

Originally posted by SARGE Seems a syndicated journalist took offense and defended him when someone called Osama a "dirtbag". Geez, where do these people come from?

Look at it from his eyes, there is no evil according to the individuals view of the world. There are injustices, thats what causes violence, injustice and ignorance. Yes, in my view Bin Laden is evil because he killed, and opresses people, but I could see the reason for someone to defend him. Just put yourself in other peoples shoes, what would you do if you lived in poverity like that? You to would be jealous of the aristocracy, us.

[SARGE]

He's never known poverty; he has millions invested worldwide, most in fronts. I believe he has/had mucho in the Central Bank of New York. To his ilk, if you ain't Muslim, you're satan, an infidel. They show no tolerance to other religions, yet enjoy tolerance here for them. If they ever control the free world, bye-bye Christianity and Jewish beliefs, and even atheism. But that's another story.

[satan]

Well, i said bin laden in my eyes is evil. By poverty I meant his followers. I think religion is itself is an evil, and one day we will all be without it. I'm not AT ALL trying to flame religious people, just saying that one day, hopefully humankind will not see the need for them. If we just could take the original idea of america and spread it worldwide. People think that's the stupidest idea, but it seems the only way we can move on. Under the articles of confederation all the states wanted to remain as single nations, but now we see how great we are for uniting. This is my idea of a utopean world, no more hate or war. To bad it's way far fetched. Just instead of fighting violence with violence, find the cause and kill that. I think the cause is ignorance and unequality. So that is what must be changed.

[lovitz]

Osama and Saddam are both pieces of ****. I'm surprised that their own people have not shot them yet.

[SARGE]

The cause is called human nature. Those who exercise self-control don't exhibit the bad tendencies, although the urges are there. Utopia don't exist, never will here, and is just a feel-goodism. Ignorance and inequities are a by-product of the human will.

As for all religion being evil, I disagree. Most laws are in some facet an offshoot of religious teachings, and human nature being what it is, laws are needed. I know of no religious teachings that preach evil. There are religious folks who are evil, but they would be anyway.

[satan]

Originally posted by SARGE The cause is called human nature. Those who exercise self-control don't exhibit the bad tendencies, although the urges are there. Utopia don't exist, never will here, and is just a feel-goodism. Ignorance and inequities are a by-product of the human will.

That's true. Utopia can only exist in your mind. There will never be equality, people always go for more naturally, survival of the fittest. We are still primitive beings.

Now i'm thinking of this quote i forget where I heard it though, "america has the worst government, except every other government in the world" probally from Thoreau.

[Sumdumgi]

Originally posted by jessho Suppose Bin Laden was a Pit Bull. You have it for years, never bites, doesn't even growl, but one day it takes off half of your kid's face. What do you do?

KILL IT, GUT IT, EAT IT FOR DINNER!!!

Lets just hope ol binny dies from lead poisoning cuz he aint worth 1 cent of my tax money. Hell, I will even provide the taxidermy for free and make a wall mount out of him. That is as long as our good old Military Force doesnt do to much damage to it.

[chilidog]

There are a lot of interesting points here. I especially like the pit bull analogy.


Think about this for a second. How would the US have reacted if we didn't have a single person to focus are anger against after Sept 11th?


People would be outraged at the government for not finding a mastermind behind the incident. We as a country demand accountability and answers to why things like this happened. By giving us Osama Bin Goatpumper, we have a nice neat target to focus our national anger on. The nation becomes unified, sense of patriotism soars,and I'm just speculating here, but I'll bet Armed Forces recruiting has gone up as a result.

Osama's vision of true Islamic religion is definitely flawed. Our pit bull is frothing at the mouth and I'm afraid we need to put him down.

Incidentally, whoever was spelling American without capitalizing the 'A', take a little more pride in your country.

[Sumdumgi]

Originally posted by satan I think religion is itself is an evil, and one day we will all be without it. If we just could take the original idea of america and spread it worldwide. Just instead of fighting violence with violence, find the cause and kill that. I think the cause is ignorance and unequality. So that is what must be changed.

Lets not forget America and the ideas: One Nation Under God...

What was you taught about the original idea of America?
I was taught the original ideas of America were founded on the principles of GOD.

I may be wrong but it sounded like you are saying the cause of some violence is religion or that religion is evil? How do you suppose we can go about killing Ignorance, unequality or a faith? Will America outlaw unequality or religion? How do you kill ignorance? Would that make America and other countries safe. Would America be a better place to live? The cause in my opinion is PEOPLE and misguided beliefs or disturbed minds. We all to often try to over analyz the problem at hand. Life really would be simple and safe if we followed the original idea of GOD and spread it worldwide. I believe Utopia takes place in heaven. Religion is not evil, people are evil. Someday we may be without religion but it stands as good of a chance of happening as hell freezing over or peace in the world.

[satan]

Originally posted by Sumdumgi Lets not forget America and the ideas: One Nation Under God... What was you taught about the original idea of America? I was taught the original ideas of America were founded on the principles of GOD. I may be wrong but it sounded like you are saying the cause of some violence is religion or that religion is evil? How do you suppose we can go about killing Ignorance, unequality or a faith? Will America outlaw unequality or religion? How do you kill ignorance? Would that make America and other countries safe. Would America be a better place to live? The cause in my opinion is PEOPLE and misguided beliefs or disturbed minds. We all to often try to over analyz the problem at hand. Life really would be simple and safe if we followed the original idea of GOD and spread it worldwide. I believe Utopia takes place in heaven. Religion is not evil, people are evil. Someday we may be without religion but it stands as good of a chance of happening as hell freezing over or peace in the world.

Yea, the idea of America is great, the best so far, and so is original thoughts of religions. Religion really has nothing to do with god at one point in time. It's just religions get mixed with politics and power, and yes, that leads to corruption. Religion brings out both the best and worst in people, Salem which trials, Christian church in Europe up to 16-17th century, Spanish Inquisition, and let's not forget what was the reason for 9/11, yes religion. Religions are just another barrier, more reasons that cause intolerance.

I do agree, utopia is found after death, and human nature is "evil". I don't have a relgion, but I do find myself highly religious.

[kraken]

I'm with you satan

All those opposed, lets kill em.

You with me or what. Better answer it right or I will track you down.

And I will find you!

[satan]

Originally posted by kraken I'm with you satan All those opposed, lets kill em. You with me or what. Better answer it right or I will track you down. And I will find you!

I really hate that "bomb them, and kick their ass" mentality. It makes me embarrassed to be an american when I hear that. We can't move on while being so ignorant, even though we are probally screwed already. War has to be the worst extention of human kind, so lets not go starting more. I wouldn't go to fight if our nation ever drafted, unless we dramatically changed our views on the world. Just my views. BTW, $1,000,000,000,000 is spent on military worldwide, seems like so much money put towards destroying.

[Gintaras]

Originally posted by satan I do agree, utopia is found after death, and human nature is "evil". I don't have a relgion, but I do find myself highly religious.

"I can't believe it's not butter"

I might need to start smoking funny stuff to understand that