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08-28-2000, 06:25 PM
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I am sure we drove Charliey crazy in the post he started...I feel that we got off of his topic alittle bit talking about seti 2.7.
Well I played with 2.7 all day on different computer this is what seems to be the case... On a P2/233 with 64 it runs slower then the 2.04 verison on a K6-3/450 with 256 meg of Ram it apears to have cut about 5 hours off of the time for a work Unit... On a k6-2/500 it looks to be about the same as the 2.04 verison... On a k6-2/400 it looks like it is going to be about an hour or so faster... on a P1-200 I noticed about .5 percent increase per hour... Keep in mind this was not a controlled experiment.... Every computer had a different work unit.. I didn't take the time to use the same work unit for a real comparison... However on the P2-233 was funny Using the same work unit here verison 2.04 at 7 hours it had about 45 percent... I upgrade to 2.7 and it started the same unit over... after about 7 hours it had only processed about 35 percent... That is how I am basing my belief that it runs slower on some machines... It does appear to be more geared to the AMD processors... Much like the 2.04 verison is gear toward the Pentiums. However I had no way to test a High End intell processor. I have a friend who is testing it on a Xeon processor... As soon as I hear, I will post his findings... ------------------ byte@pcmech.com Computer Bash 2000 Join today. Alf Hunters of PCMECH how much AMD stock do you own today? <BR> Go Away Or I Shall Taunt You A Second Time! Monty Python and the Holy Grail |
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08-28-2000, 06:30 PM
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Well, sorry that I got off topic with the other post. Anyhoo here are my results:
On my PIII 800 with 2.04 it was taking about 9-10 hours per work unit. With the 2.7 it is about 4-5 hours. I'm running it on Win2000 24/7 with 256mb ram. Once the IBM (Cr)Ap-tiva  comes back from the shop, I'll run SETI 2.04 and 2.7 and post later. It has win2000, PI 233 MMX 96mb ram.------------------ "I've got thirteen channels of $hit on the T.V. to choose from." - Pink Floyd |
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08-28-2000, 06:36 PM
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I can tell you that a P1-233 64 ramwith win 2k really sucks at seti 2.04. I never finished one....seems Like I let it go to about 50 percent and it was over 20 hours....so i quit and put 98 back on it..and it finish 2.04 in about 24 hours...
seti doesn't use much ram... they say after 16 meg ram doesn't help anymore...After you have 64 meg you can barely tell.... Verison 2.7 seems to draw even less.... [This message has been edited by byte (edited 08-28-2000).] [This message has been edited by byte (edited 08-28-2000).] |
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08-28-2000, 06:53 PM
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The off topic was ok, i got it working when i installed 2.7
The 2.04 on a celeron 500 with 64MBof ram it took 45 hours. now that was with it only running as a screen saver, and it was always doing the graphics, i never had it set to blank. On the same system with 2.7 with it running all the time with the screen set to blank after 0 minutes it says its going to take 18 hours. I read that the fsb speed is a large factor in the preformance, because the data blocks are a bit too big to the cache, so it does alot of bus transfers. ------------------ -Charlie [This message has been edited by Charliey (edited 08-28-2000).] |
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08-28-2000, 07:02 PM
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thanks byte. I was thinking of putting win98 on the craptiva, now you talked me into it. Now I just need to get it back and find the install disc. Which version would be better on the craptiva with win 98, 2.7 or 2.04? Thanks
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08-28-2000, 08:36 PM
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It is hard to say, JetBlack69
You will just have to try a unit with each and see, I have an idea...download work unit with 2.04 let it do about 10 percent... then upgrade to 2.7...it will restart the same unit see how long it take to get to 10 percent...that should give you a good idea about with one to run..... I have it on a good source the 3.0 will be out within the before the end of sept... |
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08-29-2000, 02:47 AM
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Knowing my luck, the CrAptiva won't be done 'till then.
. Thanks for the info on how to test.------------------ "I've got thirteen channels of $hit on the T.V. to choose from." - Pink Floyd [This message has been edited by JetBlack69 (edited 08-29-2000).] |
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08-29-2000, 06:58 AM
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Well, I've been running Ver. 2.04 for a while now, on a K6-3@400 Mhz. After tweaking the settings (which I should have done in the first place!), I'm completing a unit in about 14-15 hrs. I'll download the newer version shortly, and repost my results.
BTW....I'm also running 2.04 on a K6-2@500, and it seems to take 18-20 hrs/unit. Seems that the graphics are what REALLY slow SETI down, once the screen blanks, it flies! Keith ------------------ A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are made for. |
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08-29-2000, 04:04 PM
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well i can't list my results cause i can't the software to load. It installs abiword and that's it! tried all the mirrors and still the same!! any thoughts??
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08-29-2000, 04:15 PM
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danzigrules, give me you ICQ number and I will transfer it to you..
my icq is 1356209 or I could email it to you it is 760k not too much for email.... ------------------ byte@pcmech.com Computer Bash 2000 Join today. Alf Hunters of PCMECH how much AMD stock do you own today? <BR> Go Away Or I Shall Taunt You A Second Time! Monty Python and the Holy Grail |
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08-30-2000, 05:04 AM
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results are varying for me with 2.7, in most cases It runs about 4 to 5 hours faster.
My computer with 2.04 was running a unit in about 17 hours, first unit with 2.7 was 12 hours. My second unit with 2.7 with no system change is going to take about 20 hours.. I guess it has alot to do with the work unit, so I will be retesting the P2/233 computer with 2.7....If I had enought time I would like to copy the same work unit and run it on all of these machine and then do the same unit with 2.7 on all of them...but I don't have that much time. |
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08-30-2000, 10:00 AM
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On my Athlon 700 2.04 would take about 18 hours to complete a work unit. 2.7 seems to talke about 8 hours. I cut 10 hours off of my work units!
-KEiTH ------------------ Well, I'm off to go look for myself. If I should get back before I return, tell myself to wait for me. |
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08-31-2000, 12:47 PM
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Seti 2.7 runs faster and smaller...It does depend on the work unit...I just read the whole story and If you are interest in why just follow the link
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/07/24/0832220.shtml or http://www.teamlambchop.com/v30.htm ------------------ byte@pcmech.com Computer Bash 2000 Join today. Alf Hunters of PCMECH how much AMD stock do you own today? Go Away Or I Shall Taunt You A Second Time! Monty Python and the Holy Grail [This message has been edited by byte (edited 08-31-2000).] |
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08-31-2000, 06:39 PM
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OK, I must be blind. Where are you getting version 2.7 from, all I see is 2.04
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09-01-2000, 05:15 AM
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Hal
2.7 is an early beta of 3.0, that was in limited released.....But it leaked out.. Here is a link to it http://www.marcmcallister.freeuk.com...e_win_2_70.exe someone had posted it in another link. |
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09-01-2000, 05:42 AM
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Thanks... I wanna give it a try.
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09-01-2000, 09:51 AM
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well I got one done in 14hour 12min, not bad for a celey 466 with 160 meg of ram is it? can't compare with version 2.4, could never get it to load
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09-01-2000, 10:00 AM
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danzigrules, that is pretty good for a C-466. The older 2.04 version would have taken you longer to finish...However I have noticed that some Units with this verison take longer they would have on 2.04....So it is a mixed blessing....
Plus I see you joined the group...Glad you have you onboard.... |
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09-01-2000, 05:53 PM
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Mine are now screaming by at 9 1/2 hours!!! Thanks for the update byte!
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09-01-2000, 08:01 PM
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I can't take any credit for that....JetBlack and solstice turnem me on to the update...I just help spread the word a little more...
Also, if you work unit contain Pulses it will take longer then the 2.04 version since it then has to search them as well...If I have Pulses, my Units can take like 21 hours, but with out them about 12 or 13 hours.... the 2.04 took about 18 hours... |
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09-01-2000, 08:13 PM
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My first one with 2.7 went through in just over 6 hours, but the second looks like it might be around 8 or 9. Was running 10 to 11 before on 2.04.
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09-01-2000, 08:26 PM
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well thx byte, glad to be part of ALF, plus last went by in 12hours, so maybe next one will be faster too
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09-02-2000, 09:42 AM
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Update, Last week I had set a goal for everyone in the Seti group to try help us as a group finish a total of 1800 work units by Saturday. WE did it...We have 1805 total work units turned in....Way to go....
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09-02-2000, 12:22 PM
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WooHoo!!!
 , Now for a bigger goal....------------------ "I've got thirteen channels of $hit on the T.V. to choose from." - Pink Floyd |
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09-02-2000, 12:33 PM
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I wonder if we can get up to 1900 by Next Saturday.....95 work units, by 21 members...I believe we can do it...
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09-02-2000, 06:17 PM
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well I will try to help, but got new hdd and having troubles transfering files from old hdd, from a network. grrr
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09-02-2000, 06:31 PM
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No kidding Have seen very very mixed results with the new 2.7 verison of seti. I have seen my computer take as little as 12 hour all the way up the the unit I am working on now to 32 hours...
If you get a work unit with Pulses, it will really add the time to you. The pulse searches are every few seconds and take forever... I hear that verison 2.73 and 2.74 have made it out to fix memory leak erros in 2.66 and 2.77. If I can find them I will post a link Remember finis your current work unit before upgrading, because when you upgrade your client program it will start your work unit over at the beginning... |
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09-02-2000, 07:40 PM
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I used to be getting 22 hours per wu on my K6-II 300, but since I got 2.7, the first wu I did was 15 Hrs! 7 Hours diference!!
But with 2.7 comes pulse searching, if you've got a wu with none, it goes super fast. But once you get even one, it slows down to a crawl. My current wu has SetiSpy estimating 40 hours! But I am 1/3 done and I already have 8 spikes, 5 gaussians, 2 pulses, and 3 triplets...ALL INTERESTING! Not bad, but it takes very long. PS. My P100 runs 2.04 faster than 2.7 (without pulse searching too) |
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09-04-2000, 09:02 AM
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Well, I think I might slow you boys down. I am running 2 computers with V2.04. The P133 with 32M has completed 2 work units in 40 and 50 hours respectively. The P3 450 with 128M has yet to complete a unit and has CPU time of 107 hours, 60% complete. Jeepers!
Both are set to run all the time and I even closed Everything but the minimum on the P3. Is it possible that this is just a "tough" unit? It is a cool tool, though. |
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09-04-2000, 09:47 AM
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Jomama, you have it set to run all the time, now set your screen saver to Seti@home, click on settings and set the "blank screen" option. On v2.04, I was completing a work unit in about 11 hours with a Celeron 533. Now with v2.7, I have completed one in as little as 5 1/2 hours, and seem to be maxed out at about 12, so if I can hit that with a Celery, you should be able to greatly increase your times with your processor.
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