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Strider · 07-08-2004, 09:13 PM

I was just wondering if you use or don't use a no-cd patch to play your games. I just started using them, for I find it a pain in you know what to have to put in a cd to play a game that you have paid for. I just don't understand why people who are buying legit copies have to suffer for the idiots that don't.

speeddude2000 · 07-08-2004, 09:18 PM

nope i use cds...i thought they were illegal?

jeoL · 07-08-2004, 09:20 PM

i just have a copy of the cd on my hdd and emulate them and yes it is legal to do this unless you burn it to cd's and sell them on the street

lil Jimmie · 07-08-2004, 09:32 PM

I use them all the time with legal games....I think it was FarCry in which the manufacture suggested using the no-cd patch to fix a bug some users where having.

bigandy · 07-08-2004, 10:06 PM

I do sometimes. If I get a new game and I know I'm going to be playing it a lot, I don't bother since I have the CD near by all the time. But If it's an older game, or one that I don't play all the time, I will install a No-CD patch so that I don't have to go CD hunting when I decide I want to play it.

colecifer · 07-08-2004, 10:19 PM

I use it just because its a lot more conveinent, and i don't have to listen to the annoying sound of the CD drive.

rave · 07-08-2004, 10:37 PM

i know that in Malaysia, it is used as a way to pirate games.
but personally i use it just of the convinience

ScurrilousPrune · 07-09-2004, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rave

i know that in Malaysia, it is used as a way to pirate games.
but personally i use it just of the convinience

Actually, it's used everywhere with pirated "warez" games. It can be used for legal purposes though. You just can't use it with warez or copy CDs and sell them or give them away.

ghost_of_war · 07-09-2004, 06:22 AM

Code:

You just can't use it with warez or copy CDs and sell them or give them away.

That's how copied CDs are often played......

Strider · 07-09-2004, 06:37 AM

I would like to ask everyone a favor and keep this thread legit by not discussing copying cd's. There's nothing wrong (in my opinion) in making a no-patch CD as long as you own the original game. I don't want to have this thread locked because of discussion of that nature, I'm more interested in if your using the CD to play or a no-patch CD and the reasoning behind it.

Hi Ho · 07-09-2004, 12:46 PM

I would but I can't find any for my games.

ghost_of_war · 07-09-2004, 01:49 PM

I only use them when I am sick of reaching for the CDs. I have over 700+ PC games (yes, I said 700) and if I play the game for a short while, I don't want to keep looking through my 4 huge CD wallets to find it - LOL.

However, I noticed some official game patches that come out, now include a no-cd patch when they release it (ex: Unreal Tournament 99, 03 and 04).

speeddude2000 · 07-09-2004, 02:08 PM

i cant find any no cd patches so how do u emualte the thing?

icallmedan · 07-09-2004, 06:43 PM

I think it is legal for games you own. On gamecopyworld.com they have a big warnign about only takign those files for games you own, otherwise it is illegal, but I don't know for sure.

colecifer · 07-09-2004, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeddude2000

i cant find any no cd patches so how do u emualte the thing?

Nero 6 came with an image drive so i just copy an image of the game onto my computer and then load it in the image drive. Works well and is completely legal, its also nice because if i find i lost the disk i can burn it again and not be hosed if i reformat.
I do this with older games that don't have encryption so it works fine for newer ones you might have to use a program called Alcohol 120% not sure though as i don't have any newer games because my current rig can't handle them to well.

**Force Flow** · 07-11-2004, 01:13 AM

I'm not sure about the legality of no-CD patches. I've heard arguements both ways.

As a matter of convienience and practicality, I choose to use them. With most games, everything is installed onto the HDD and all the CD is needed for is to start up the game.

Redfallon · 07-12-2004, 11:08 AM

I agree with force, don't know if it's legal or not, from the stand point of the developers, I'm sure they hate them. But if it's for a game I bought and it means I can leave my disc in the case after installing, I'm all for it. Problem is they're getting harder and harder to find. Also emulating is getting to be more of a pain.

icallmedan · 07-12-2004, 01:41 PM

What do you mean that emulating is getting to be more of a pain?

**Force Flow** · 07-12-2004, 02:13 PM

I think Redfallon was referring to virtual CD ISOs. I've heard of a few games that would not work with alcohol 120%.

Redfallon · 07-12-2004, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Force Flow

I think Redfallon was referring to virtual CD ISOs. I've heard of a few games that would not work with alcohol 120%.

Force is right on.

speeddude2000 · 07-12-2004, 03:06 PM

i went to that game copy world site, and got a no cd patch for battlefield vietnam. it doenst work that great though, when i exit a server, and try to join another one, it comes up with error: "please insert either battlefield vietnam CD". eh, whatever. ill just stick to using the cd cause i dont play many different games.

icallmedan · 07-12-2004, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Force Flow

I think Redfallon was referring to virtual CD ISOs. I've heard of a few games that would not work with alcohol 120%.

I ues Daemon tools, and I have never had a problem. My friends have had problems with Alcohol 120% too....try Daemon tools.

jeoL · 07-12-2004, 05:10 PM

i use daemon tools also, never had a problem with it
alcohol 120 also worked for me but the trial period will run out so i prefer daemon tools as it is freeware

icallmedan · 07-12-2004, 10:18 PM

Same here....

nocturnx · 07-13-2004, 05:40 PM

yep I use daemon toolz also, just mount the iso's, works like a charm.

kev_nufc · 07-14-2004, 04:35 PM

I use no cd patches for game cd's that I have lost or when I have given a shot to a friend.

I get all my no cd patches at www.megagames.com in the trainers section and I am yet to fail finding one for my games

icallmedan · 07-14-2004, 09:58 PM

Not a bad site...they do have a lot of games.

Jaggannath · 07-24-2004, 08:35 PM

I prefer to use the no-CD patch because I'm lazy... we are required (being in the military) to keep things clean and tidy, and I can never remember where I've hidden the CDs from sight LOL

icallmedan · 07-24-2004, 11:52 PM

That's funny...is it really being tidy if you are just hiding them...isn't that the same as kicking dust under the rug?

speeddude2000 · 07-25-2004, 10:19 AM

hah yeah thats how i clean up too(when i actually do at least haha)

taken from the megagames site disclaimer:

"In conclusion, all material on MegaGames is fully legal in the United States."

wow thats good to hear.

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07-08-2004, 09:13 PM	#1
Strider Member (10 bit) Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Burb of Detroit, Mi Posts: 874	Using a No-CD Patch I was just wondering if you use or don't use a no-cd patch to play your games. I just started using them, for I find it a pain in you know what to have to put in a cd to play a game that you have paid for. I just don't understand why people who are buying legit copies have to suffer for the idiots that don't. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Life is a Fig Newton of Your Imagination! Last edited by Strider; 07-08-2004 at 09:15 PM.

07-08-2004, 09:18 PM	#2
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07-08-2004, 09:20 PM	#3
jeoL Member (7 bit) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: queens, new york Posts: 97	i just have a copy of the cd on my hdd and emulate them and yes it is legal to do this unless you burn it to cd's and sell them on the street Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-08-2004, 09:32 PM	#4
lil Jimmie HOT ROD Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: On the Edge Posts: 4,565	I use them all the time with legal games....I think it was FarCry in which the manufacture suggested using the no-cd patch to fix a bug some users where having. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Fast enough 2 get by.....old enough 2 know what not 2 try -You know it was me

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07-08-2004, 10:06 PM	#5
bigandy Folding For PCMech Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Dimas, CA Posts: 3,136	I do sometimes. If I get a new game and I know I'm going to be playing it a lot, I don't bother since I have the CD near by all the time. But If it's an older game, or one that I don't play all the time, I will install a No-CD patch so that I don't have to go CD hunting when I decide I want to play it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-08-2004, 10:19 PM	#6
colecifer Member (9 bit) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kansas City(westwood), KS Posts: 458	I use it just because its a lot more conveinent, and i don't have to listen to the annoying sound of the CD drive. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-08-2004, 10:37 PM	#7
rave Member (10 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nottingham UK or Kuala Lumpur Malaysia Posts: 600	i know that in Malaysia, it is used as a way to pirate games. but personally i use it just of the convinience Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-09-2004, 06:22 AM	#9
ghost_of_war Member (8 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 207	Code: You just can't use it with warez or copy CDs and sell them or give them away. That's how copied CDs are often played...... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-09-2004, 06:37 AM	#10
Strider Member (10 bit) Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Burb of Detroit, Mi Posts: 874	I would like to ask everyone a favor and keep this thread legit by not discussing copying cd's. There's nothing wrong (in my opinion) in making a no-patch CD as long as you own the original game. I don't want to have this thread locked because of discussion of that nature, I'm more interested in if your using the CD to play or a no-patch CD and the reasoning behind it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-09-2004, 12:46 PM	#11
Hi Ho Certified Audio Nut Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 7,214	I would but I can't find any for my games. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ "I'm not lying. I'm writing fiction with my mouth." - Homer Simpson My Miscelaneous Gallery ASUS P7P55D PRO / Intel Core i7 860 / 8GB Mushkin DDR3 1600 RAM / OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SSD / Seagate 1TB 7200.12 / Asus Radeon 5870 1GB / LG Super-Multi 22x SATA DVD-RW / Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit / Cable Modem / HT Omega Striker 7.1 Sound Card / FSP 700W PSU / Logitech MX1000 Wireless Laser Mouse / Asus 24" 16:9 LCD w/Webcam / Axiom Audiobyte 2.1 Speakers

07-09-2004, 01:49 PM	#12
ghost_of_war Member (8 bit) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 207	I only use them when I am sick of reaching for the CDs. I have over 700+ PC games (yes, I said 700) and if I play the game for a short while, I don't want to keep looking through my 4 huge CD wallets to find it - LOL. However, I noticed some official game patches that come out, now include a no-cd patch when they release it (ex: Unreal Tournament 99, 03 and 04). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-09-2004, 02:08 PM	#13
speeddude2000 Member (10 bit) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: on the couch Posts: 830	i cant find any no cd patches so how do u emualte the thing? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-09-2004, 06:43 PM	#14
icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	I think it is legal for games you own. On gamecopyworld.com they have a big warnign about only takign those files for games you own, otherwise it is illegal, but I don't know for sure. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-11-2004, 01:13 AM	#16
Force Flow Barefoot on the Moon! Staff Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 13,381	I'm not sure about the legality of no-CD patches. I've heard arguements both ways. As a matter of convienience and practicality, I choose to use them. With most games, everything is installed onto the HDD and all the CD is needed for is to start up the game. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ There are two secrets to staying young, being happy, and achieving success. You have to laugh and find humor every day, and you have to have a dream.

07-12-2004, 11:08 AM	#17
Redfallon Resident Intel Fanboy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 1,669	I agree with force, don't know if it's legal or not, from the stand point of the developers, I'm sure they hate them. But if it's for a game I bought and it means I can leave my disc in the case after installing, I'm all for it. Problem is they're getting harder and harder to find. Also emulating is getting to be more of a pain. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ ...wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat...

07-12-2004, 01:41 PM	#18
icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	What do you mean that emulating is getting to be more of a pain? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-12-2004, 02:13 PM	#19
Force Flow Barefoot on the Moon! Staff Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 13,381	I think Redfallon was referring to virtual CD ISOs. I've heard of a few games that would not work with alcohol 120%. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-12-2004, 03:06 PM	#21
speeddude2000 Member (10 bit) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: on the couch Posts: 830	i went to that game copy world site, and got a no cd patch for battlefield vietnam. it doenst work that great though, when i exit a server, and try to join another one, it comes up with error: "please insert either battlefield vietnam CD". eh, whatever. ill just stick to using the cd cause i dont play many different games. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-12-2004, 05:10 PM	#23
jeoL Member (7 bit) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: queens, new york Posts: 97	i use daemon tools also, never had a problem with it alcohol 120 also worked for me but the trial period will run out so i prefer daemon tools as it is freeware Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-12-2004, 10:18 PM	#24
icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	Same here.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-13-2004, 05:40 PM	#25
nocturnx The Boneshaker Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,266	yep I use daemon toolz also, just mount the iso's, works like a charm. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Leave it to me as I find a way to be Consider me a satellite, forever orbiting I knew all the rules, but the rules did not know me Guaranteed ---Eddie Vedder, “Guaranteed”. Rest in Peace, Evan. 2.11.71 - 9.8.08

07-14-2004, 04:35 PM	#26
kev_nufc Member (8 bit) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 254	I use no cd patches for game cd's that I have lost or when I have given a shot to a friend. I get all my no cd patches at www.megagames.com in the trainers section and I am yet to fail finding one for my games Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-14-2004, 09:58 PM	#27
icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	Not a bad site...they do have a lot of games. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-24-2004, 08:35 PM	#28
Jaggannath Gremlin Overlord Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,382	I prefer to use the no-CD patch because I'm lazy... we are required (being in the military) to keep things clean and tidy, and I can never remember where I've hidden the CDs from sight LOL Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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07-24-2004, 11:52 PM	#29
icallmedan Member (12 bit) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,309	That's funny...is it really being tidy if you are just hiding them...isn't that the same as kicking dust under the rug? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

07-25-2004, 10:19 AM	#30
speeddude2000 Member (10 bit) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: on the couch Posts: 830	hah yeah thats how i clean up too(when i actually do at least haha) taken from the megagames site disclaimer: "In conclusion, all material on MegaGames is fully legal in the United States." wow thats good to hear. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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