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Old 04-21-2001, 09:05 PM   #1
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Well, I am realizing that my system is pretty good in all respects EXCEPT my graphics card. I bought it because I enjoy the TV tuner, and the vid capture was very good compared to many standalone tuner cards, but it's an All-in-wonder Pro (Rage Pro chipset, 8 MB RAM) and it simply can't do hardware 3D very good at all.

Now, I don't want a top of the line card with a bajillion megs of RAM; I want something that is good but not super expensive. Basically I want Black and White to actually have a playable level of graphics, and maybe then I could turn on 3d graphics in games like Baldur's Gate II. I'd also like something that had decent TV tuner/vid cap capabilites.

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Old 04-21-2001, 09:07 PM   #2
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Also

My motherboard only supports 2X AGP, if that makes a difference for what people recommend.
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Old 04-21-2001, 10:34 PM   #3
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I've always been an ATI fan (currently have an All-in-Wonder Radeon) and really like the Radeon chipset cards and have yet to be disappointed by them. They have them in budget SDR 32Mb PCI/AGP to high end 64Mb cards.
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Yeah, I'd agree there. The 32 meg Radeons have great image quality and decent gaming speed even for a first person shooter fan. Plus, ATI of course has always had better "add on" support than anyone else such as DVD assist and TV in/out.

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Old 04-22-2001, 02:06 AM   #5
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Hmm... this sounds like what I'm looking for. Thanks for the input!
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Old 04-22-2001, 11:56 AM   #6
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Hmm... just looked at ATI's website. I don't think this will work, because:
a) $300 is pretty steep for me to pay, and
b) The included video software doesn't support win95. (I have win95b)
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Old 04-22-2001, 03:09 PM   #7
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$300.00???? there are cheaper versions of the Radeon such as the ATI RADEON LE 32MB DDR which I can get for about $160.00CDN, but then there is the OS support, like you said, no 95.
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Old 04-22-2001, 07:50 PM   #8
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If you're looking for another brand (like NVidia... hint hint (are the subliminal messages working?)), you could check out the ASUS V6800 Deluxe or the ASUS V7100 Deluxe Combo. Both are GeForce 2 MX based cards and the V7100 was listed at pricewatch for $169 + shipping.
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Old 04-22-2001, 08:43 PM   #9
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I ended up getting a deal on a lesser brand Geforce2 (Elsa brand) that were highly recommended to me from someone else as a great card at a bargain price.

Of course, it has no bells or whistles, but it looks to handle most of what I wanted, and I might just build another system for vid capture anyhow. A system dedicated only to video would probably not set me back by all that much, and would work a heck of a lot better than an all-purpose system.

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Old 05-03-2001, 09:45 PM   #10
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I'd recommend going with the nVidia Geforce2 MX cards. They're really cheap now, and most have the option of getting TV-in/out or dual head for just a few bucks more. I like the Asus v7100. About $145 CDN.

The Radeon LE or VE are good choices as well, and I think they're even cheaper.
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Old 05-03-2001, 11:17 PM   #11
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I ended up getting an Elsa Geforce2 for $90 (incl. shipping) and it works great so far!
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