6800gt help with farcry!!

[porky]

please help me i have a 6800gt 256mb and im playing far cry and accourding to the benchmarks i should be getting about 70fps with 4xaa and 4xansitropic but im getting 17 fps lowest!!!!if i put all settings on low its the same!!! if i put all settings on high and make resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1204 no difference!!! i use fraps to see the fps also on the demo of nalu i cant get more then 13 fps!!!! but on 3d mark 03 i get 10000(ten thousand!!)??? and 3d mark 05 i get 4000(four thousand) i tried changing farcry to open gl and the game never ran soo its still on direct3d weather aa is 16x or off no difference heres my specs:

p4 2ghz 100mhz fsb
768 mb ram (266)
agp 8x
psu 450 wat
2x40gb hd
audigy 2 zs
my motherbourd is a 865PE-ICH5

the one game wich i do play often is bf1942 and it runs perfectly on it with 16xaa and 16 ansiotripic im using 66.93 drivers and iv tried downloading 3rd party ones please help me thanks the only thing wich i dont understand is why with 3d mark 03 i get 10000 (ten thousand)???? that means its NOT my fx card but maybe something else have formatted and still same problem theirs no spyware and no viruses remeber 3d mark ten thousand and i cant even run far cry on lowest settings!!!!! yy>>????? thanks porky-

[kram 2.0]

Welcome to PC Mech forums

First of all, remember that it is not benchmarks that matter - it is how you enjoy the game rather. If we rely on benchmarks or artificial numbers too much, there would be no point in games.

That being said, I can say that the thing that is most "slowing" your performance is your processor - 400Mhz (all P4s are quad pumped) is not a very fast front side bus speed. Slower transaction time between the processor and the memory means slower utilization of the gaming files means slower gaming. However, you should be able to run FarCry at somewhat decent settings despite of this. Your 3DMark03 score looks very decent. Try turning down AA to 4X and see how that works - AA and AAF are known to take major performance hits on nVIDIA based graphics cards.

kram

[DragonNOA1]

Looking at Far Cry only, you are definately CPU limited. Start at 800x600 w/ no AA or AF and you should be able to play.

If not, then make sure you have the latest BIOS, chipset drivers, DX9.0c, nVidia digitally signed vid drivers, kill all unnecessary background processes and give yourself enough HD space/big enough swap file.

[MrAustin]

As was said before, your processor's FSB is draging you down. Your motherboard is not an 865PE-ICH5, though I would think any motherboard with that chipset should support 800Mhz FSB -- get that, and you'll see your 70 FPS, most likely.

[porky]

hey guys thanks 4 the advice but im not 100% certain if i should get a new processor and if soo i need a new mother bourd because this one only supports 533 fsb the reason being is if i am cpu limited then why with 3d mark 03,05 i get very good scores surely if i can get that my system is performing well?? also what motherbourd has 800mhz fsb supports ddr2 533mhz ram and has an agp slot all the ones i have seen are only pcx slots

thanks porky

[mystvearn]

To get optimum output from the GT, a 3ghz cpu and above. Those AMD FX would be good.
How good are your scorese in 03/05? The program benchmarks your card (mostly) and your cpu the other part. Thats why when the benchmark are running, the graphics are as worse as possible, (to test CPU), and as good as possible to test the card.
800mhz from intel, no DDR2 support, and why bother with DDR2, its expansive, and so little difference with DDR.
Motherboard makers are phasing out AGP motherboards, but you can still find some bargins of intel with the 875/865 chipset and AMD with lots of chipset, Nforce, via, sis. Just a matter of preferance. YSou could find lots of bargins of these CPU & motherboard. But since you have a 865, just get a CPU, type C, or E. type B won't work.
I did not know that 2ghz (northwood?) worked on 865

[porky]

yea iv tested my pc with 3d mark 03 and iu get a cpu score of 459...is that good or really bad?? the reason why i want a ddr2 compatibale motherbourd is i already have 2 512mb 533 ram modules i got overseas also i got the 6800gt agp overseas soo i wana use the ram but it does not fit in my motherbourd soo are their any bourds that have agp and support ddr2??

also would changing from 2ghz to 3ghz make a big difference?? its only like a 25% increase would having a slow cpu really slow the game down soo much even when its on the lowest resolutions the fps does not change thanks porky-

[DragonNOA1]

50% of 2 is 1 so 1+2 = 3ghz meaning a 50% increase. Add faster bus speeds everywhere with latest tech and you will be screaming.

[wolfie]

p4 2ghz 100mhz fsb

shouldnt that be at 133 OR 166 in the bios?

[porky]

Yea i cheked this and this is very wierd my box says its a 865pe in the manual it says only supports up to 533fsb also in the manual it says it has 4 ddr-sdram slots even on 3d mark in system info it says i have 4 ram slots but when i open up the pc i only have 2 slots!!! also my motherbourd only has 2 usb ports when it says on internet that it has 4 is this bourd fake????

thanks porky

[mystvearn]

quite likely so, or you got the wrong manual there. I don't think 865 supports 2ghz. 865 is 800fsb, not 533.

[porky]

hmm i jus check my mb manual and saw that it actually doesnt support my processor but then shouldnt it not work??? it supports only 533 and 800 not 400 (ive got a 400)fsb. could maybe that be the problem?? - but the 400fsb is working even though the mb doesnt support it??

[porky]

guys i just cheked my mb and it says it supports a 2.0aghz but not the 2.0 normal whats this mean and how do i chek what my processor is?? could that be the problem

[mystvearn]

sisandra soft is a free diagnostic software that will tell you everything. 2.0a is Willamate core. FSB 400.

[porky]

SiSoftware Sandra

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
Speed : 2.04GHz
Performance Rating : PR2240 (estimated)
Type : Standard
Package : FC µPGA478
Rated Speed/FSB : 2000MHz / 4x 100MHz
Multiplier : 20/1x
Minimum/Maximum Multiplier : 0/1x / 20/1x
Generation : G8
Name : P4N (Northwood) Pentium 4C 130nm 1.6-3.4GHz 1.475-1.575V
Revision/Stepping : 2 / 7 (9)
Stepping Mask : C1
Microcode : MU0F2737
Core Voltage Rating : 1.550V
Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 36-bit / 32-bit
Native Page Size : 4kB

whats this mean is my mb compatible??? my mb takes p4 2.0a ghz and above only but not normal 2.0 or lower? if it matters on 3dmark03 i get a score of 400 for my cpu is the problem with my mb or is their maybe something wrong with it or is it just too slow also do you think maybe my 6800 is faulty?? thanks

[porky]

hey guys heres an update i went today and got a 3.2ghz prescott cpu and 2x1gb400 ram and the difference is amazing at the same spot where i was getting 17fps with everything on hiest 1024x768 4aa,4ansitropic then with my new ram and new processor i was getting 40fps also on 3dmark 03 it went from 9500 to 12500 and 3d mark 05 from 3700 to 5200 major difference thaks for all your help ppl until next time cheers!!!

[mystvearn]

Good for you, the old mobo was not 865 as said. Make sure not to be cheated this time to. Running sisandra soft could verify what you bought

[Hi Ho]

I can play the Far Cry demo with all settings maxxed out. My CPU is certainly more limiting than that P4. Not to mention the video card. I get 25-40 FPS. Not amazing but it's smooth and plays fine. I think my FSB is 133mhz.

[porky]

guys just wondering but will the 6800gt agp work in pci express??? because iv read up on it and nvidea say that they have a bridged chip...?? does this mean agp will work in PCI express??

[DragonNOA1]

^No, the pci-e card is not a true pci-e, it is an agp card with a bridge chip on it to convert it to pci-e. it will not work in both agp & pci-e. it is either or.

[porky]

hey guys was playing farcry today and i wanted to chek the temp settings on my 6800gt and it was 90 degrees!!!!! when its idle it about 60degrees!!!! its not overcloked going at 350/1000 i have 3 fans in my pc 1 blowing air in and 2 blowing air out the temprature of the room is about 25 degrees the case is not in a cubourd or anything soo airflow aint a problem is it supposed to be like this??? on other games like bf1942 it only reaches about 75 degrees

thanks

[DragonNOA1]

How are you measuring temps?

Originally Posted by porky temprature of the room is about 25 degrees

jesus

[porky]

in the nvidea control panel if i opern my case and put my industrial strench 100cm fan on then the temprature goes down to 50 degrees idling even if i take a cpu fan(those things are damn fast) and put it on the heatsink of my fx card and close the case the temp still rises back to 68 degrees im just not getting "new" air into my pc as long as the case is closed the temprature rises 10-15 degrees and i have 2 fans@2000rpm blowing in and 1 14cm fan at 2000rpm blowing out dunno what i should do?? what you think???

[Hi Ho]

Are you talking celcius or farenhight?