Visiontek Xtasy 5632???

[Jenni]

Newegg is selling this card for $65. I've been thinking about buying one, but I can't find anything about it anywhere! Not even on VisionTek's site. It is listed as a Geforce2 GTS-V (what does the "-V" mean???) 32 meg DDR. I'm very hesitant to buy something that I can't find a single review or info peice on.

[Prew]

Very interesting, A mystery! apparently Newegg is the only place to buy this card- internet searches do not turn up any references for it (except on 3dchipset which reports that, evidently, Newegg originally advertised this card as a Ti)

[Prew]

Ok, I got the answer-- I emailed the Visiontek support and received a table that shows the differences. Can't figure out how to insert the MS Word Table into this box so I'll just type it. The info in parentheses are for the GTS-V chipset, the info without parentheses are for the regular GTS chipset.


Data Rate: DDR (DDR)
Memory Bus: 128-bit (128-bit)
Chip Clock: 200 MHz (175 MHz)
Memory Clock: 166 MHz (143 MHz)
Memory Access Time: 6ns (6ns)
Memory Bandwith: 5.3 GB/s (5.3GB/s)
Ramdac: 350MHz (350MHz)

No info on how much the descreased Chip Clock and Memory Clock speeds effects Framerates.

[Jenni]

Thanks for the info. I think I'm gonna get one. If it's a Geforce2 it can't be too bad (unless it's made by Abit, lol...)

[Floppyman]

Hmmmm, I wonder how the memory bandwidth of both can be same if it (memory) is clocked slower on the GTS-V chipset cards? TIA.

[Jenni]

Yeah, that's a good question--and why clock it slower if it has the same 6ns RAM? Something isn't right about this situation...got me wondering if maybe this isn't a failed attempt at a MX400 that was renamed.

[Prew]

The table Visiontek sent me also had info on the MX 200 and MX 400 (is there a way I can put the table directly into this forum? Its a MS Word file. I forwarded the email I received from Visiontek to Jenni as the table is easier to read for comparison between cards). So here are the specs for these two cards (MX400 in parentheses)

Memory: 32mg (64mg)
Data Rate: SDR (SDR)
Memory Bus: 64-bit (128-bit)
Chip Clock: 175 MHz (200 MHz)
Memory Clock: 166 MHz (166 MHz)
Memory Access Time: 6ns (6ns)
Memory Bandwith: 1.3 GB/s (2.7GB/s)
Ramdac: 350MHz (350MHz
3D chip cooler no (yes)

Yep, the GTS-V kinda looks like an MX except with a slower memory clock and with DDR data rate.

[JCH]

I also checked on this card. It seems to be an underclocked GTS core with 7ns memory having 4.6GB's bandwidth according to the spec sheet faxed me after I called Visiontek. It should outperform any MX card and be slightly slower than a standard GF2GTS. I jumped on this deal and ordered 2.There are reports on other forums that this card will overclock to standard GTS spec.

[Jenni]

Ok, here's a question for you guys--I was in the local Office Depot tonight, and they have the 64 meg Radeon SDR card for $99, but it also has a $50 mail in rebate, making it a $50 card! So, if you had your choice between the two, which one would you pick?

[Prew]

Originally posted by JCH I also checked on this card. It seems to be an underclocked GTS core with 7ns memory having 4.6GB's bandwidth according to the spec sheet faxed me after I called Visiontek.

Now that's interesting, the spec table emailed to me from Visiontek said the GTS-V card has 6ns memory and 5.3 GB/s bandwidth. If you're talking about the same card I wonder what's going on with Visiontek? Did you see the card for sell somewhere other than Newegg.com?

Good question Jenni, however, I've read on this and other forums and review sites that the 64mg memory in an MX card (is the Radeon an MX card?) is not much faster (if at all) than the 32 mg because the speed is bottlenecked by the SDR memory.

I think Tiretool or Xayd should buy one of these cards and run a comparative review on it

[Tiretool]

I think Tiretool would be glad to do a review on it, if Visiontek would be nice enough to send him one for free!

[glc]

Hmmm - this sounds like the same concept as the Radeon LE - substandard GPU's declocked slightly to ensure stability.

[JCH]

For anyone who might be interested check this site

www.itbuyerguide.com/#Mystery Visiontek Geforce2GTS-V revealed

If someone is upgrading and looking for an inexpensive but fairly fast card, I dont think you can beat this.

[Prew]

Forums are saying that this card is 7ns memory but Visiontek says its 6ns. Is there a definative answer on this? The forums are also saying that this card is easily o/c'd to regular GTS and higher speeds. Also, apparently this card has been available on Ubid.com adverstised as a regular GTS card.

[JCH]

The spec sheet I have from Visiontek says 4.6GB memory bandwidth. The cards that I received from Newegg have Infineon memory chips and the numbers indicate 7ns memory.

[Prew]

Originally posted by JCH The spec sheet I have from Visiontek says 4.6GB memory bandwidth. The cards that I received from Newegg have Infineon memory chips and the numbers indicate 7ns memory.

So why did Visiontek email me a comparative table (MS Word file: with MX200, M400, GTS-V and GTS) with the figures I previously reported (5.3 gb/s bandwidth and 6ns)? Hmm, this sort of thing really irritates me. There appears to be some deception going on with this card (Ubid sells it as a regular GTS card, Newegg originally advertises it as a Ti card, Visiontek is sending out tables with apparently inaccurately information). ***