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**Force Flow** · 02-14-2010, 12:53 PM

...wait a while. It's got a lot of bugs and places the game will crash, mainly on the PC, since it's a console port.

Also, you need a Games For Windows Live (GFWL) account to play the game---even in single player mode.

As you can imagine, there are a lot of unhappy gamers right now.

One of my biggest annoyances is that the key binding is flat out wrong. An message may pop up on the screen that says "Press F to do this", and you actually have to press MOUSE1 or "R" instead. It makes no sense whatsoever.

David M · 02-14-2010, 01:07 PM

Its always interesting how some games are released before they are truly ready.

I'm glad you mentioned the Games for Windows Live. For me, that rules out getting the game. Too bad. I tried setting up on one of those accounts years ago. I could never get it to work. I'm not interested in buying yet another $50-$60 non-refundable game that may not work for me. Its a crime how the gaming software industry is able to sell a product where if it does not work and your system meets or exceeds their requirements, there is no refund.

ryuk999 · 02-14-2010, 01:16 PM

For me games for windows live is not a problem at all considering I just used my old expired Xbox live gamertag. However, the key bindings sounds like it'd be a bug

hopefully it'll be solved in the near future. Has anyone played Battlefield bad company 2 beta? I'm lovin it so far. <-- don't mean to hijack this post

**Force Flow** · 02-14-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by David M

I'm glad you mentioned the Games for Windows Live. For me, that rules out getting the game. Too bad. I tried setting up on one of those accounts years ago. I could never get it to work.

Yeah...if I caught that fact before I actually bought it, I wouldn't have actually bought it. I spent a few hours trying to get the GFWL "feature" working before I could actually start playing

This is what it says under "other requirements" for the game on the steam store page:

Quote:

Ability to save game, earn achievements, receive title updates and online play requires log-in to Games for Windows LIVE

I would think that single-player mode would not require this since it's not...well... *online*

Extremerc12 · 02-15-2010, 08:26 AM

I feel your pain with G4WL. The question would have to be why did they decide this was a good idea? To combat the pirating of games? In any event, there is a patch out there that allows you to eliminate G4WL. Unfortunately, this is the only way I can get my copy of Fallout 3 GOTY to even run. Oh yea, I remember the reasoning for G4WL and DLC, its something called greed is it not?

**pam123** · 02-15-2010, 09:02 AM

Thanks for the "heads up" I"ll skip BioShock 2.

A pity since I downloaded the first game from Steam during the Dec. sale and I'm really enjoying it.

David M · 02-15-2010, 11:49 AM

Yup...the first Bioshock is a great game! Microsoft could not leave well enough alone and had to find a way to screw that up. Too bad for them as well, they could have sold more games.

tomster2300 · 02-26-2010, 03:31 PM

Agreed, Bioshock 1 was quite the adventure. Too bad about the sequel. I guess all good things must come to an end (albeit it a premature end).

tigstah · 02-27-2010, 10:10 PM

no biggie, never played the first one

Jaggannath · 03-12-2010, 05:47 AM

Haven't played the first one yet... it's on the 'to acquire' list when it's about $20.

Any single player game that requires me to be online won't get a run, the only time I play games is away from home with no uplink.

02-14-2010, 12:53 PM	#1
Force Flow Barefoot on the Moon! Staff Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 13,806	For anyone thinking about getting Bioshock 2... ...wait a while. It's got a lot of bugs and places the game will crash, mainly on the PC, since it's a console port. Also, you need a Games For Windows Live (GFWL) account to play the game---even in single player mode. As you can imagine, there are a lot of unhappy gamers right now. One of my biggest annoyances is that the key binding is flat out wrong. An message may pop up on the screen that says "Press F to do this", and you actually have to press MOUSE1 or "R" instead. It makes no sense whatsoever. __________________ There are two secrets to staying young, being happy, and achieving success. You have to laugh and find humor every day, and you have to have a dream. Last edited by Force Flow; 02-14-2010 at 12:55 PM.

02-14-2010, 01:07 PM	#2
David M Techphile. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Posts: 6,568	Its always interesting how some games are released before they are truly ready. I'm glad you mentioned the Games for Windows Live. For me, that rules out getting the game. Too bad. I tried setting up on one of those accounts years ago. I could never get it to work. I'm not interested in buying yet another $50-$60 non-refundable game that may not work for me. Its a crime how the gaming software industry is able to sell a product where if it does not work and your system meets or exceeds their requirements, there is no refund. __________________ Asus P8P67 WS Revolution \| Intel 2600K @ 4.7 GHz \| Win 7 Pro 64 \|8 gigs Corsair 1600 \| Two Diamond 6990's in Crossfire\| Corsair AX1200 \| Thermalright Silver Arrow \| Western Digital Black 2TB 64 meg cache \| Lian-Li PC-A71B \| Logitec Z-5500 \| Three Asus 26" VW266H monitors running under Eyefinity \| Last edited by David M; 02-14-2010 at 01:14 PM.

02-14-2010, 01:16 PM	#3
ryuk999 Member (9 bit) Join Date: May 2009 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 378	For me games for windows live is not a problem at all considering I just used my old expired Xbox live gamertag. However, the key bindings sounds like it'd be a bug hopefully it'll be solved in the near future. Has anyone played Battlefield bad company 2 beta? I'm lovin it so far. <-- don't mean to hijack this post __________________ My Rig: i7 3770k\| Hyper 212 Evo \| EVGA GTX 560 Ti \| ADATA 4x4GB 1600 \| Asus P8Z77-V \| Corsair HX650W Modular \| 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 \| 500GB WD Caviar Black \| 1TB WD Caviar Black \| NZXT Phantom White \| Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit DXeleven F@H

02-15-2010, 08:26 AM	#5
Extremerc12 Member (10 bit) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 546	I feel your pain with G4WL. The question would have to be why did they decide this was a good idea? To combat the pirating of games? In any event, there is a patch out there that allows you to eliminate G4WL. Unfortunately, this is the only way I can get my copy of Fallout 3 GOTY to even run. Oh yea, I remember the reasoning for G4WL and DLC, its something called greed is it not? __________________ \|Intel i5-2500k\| \|Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H\| \|1TB WD Cavier Black\| \|EVGA GeForce GTX670 FTW\| \|16GB Vengeance 1600\| \|SeaSonic X-760\| \|Logitech G19\| \|Razer DeathAdder\| \|Windows 7 Pro\|\|Logitech G51 speakers\| \|Lite On DVD burner\|\|Logitech G35 Headset\| \|Cooler Master HAF 932\| \|Corsair H100 w/ Noctua NF-F12 Fans\|\|2 x Kingston HyperX 120GB SSD\|\|Asus Xonar DSX\|

02-15-2010, 09:02 AM	#6
pam123 Computing Professor Staff Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 11,944	Thanks for the "heads up" I"ll skip BioShock 2. A pity since I downloaded the first game from Steam during the Dec. sale and I'm really enjoying it. __________________ Asus M4A77D, 64 X2 6000+, 4 GB Corsair DDR2 800 ram, Radeon 5770.

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02-15-2010, 11:49 AM	#7
David M Techphile. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Francisco Bay Posts: 6,568	Yup...the first Bioshock is a great game! Microsoft could not leave well enough alone and had to find a way to screw that up. Too bad for them as well, they could have sold more games. Last edited by David M; 02-15-2010 at 12:04 PM.

02-26-2010, 03:31 PM	#8
tomster2300 I like monkeys Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The South Posts: 2,526	Agreed, Bioshock 1 was quite the adventure. Too bad about the sequel. I guess all good things must come to an end (albeit it a premature end). __________________ Desktop: Intel i7 920--GA-x58-UD3R--Corsair XMS 12GB DDR3 1600mhz--Diamond Radeon HD 7850--PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750w psu--Samsung 830 128GB SSD--1TB RAID 0--Lite-on DVD-DL burner--Cooler Master HAF case--Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Laptop: Apple Macbook Pro 13" 2011

02-27-2010, 10:10 PM	#9
tigstah Member (10 bit) Join Date: May 2002 Location: MS Posts: 828	no biggie, never played the first one __________________ R.I.P. #21 Sean Taylor 1983-2007 GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN

03-12-2010, 05:47 AM	#10
Jaggannath Gremlin Overlord Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,382	Haven't played the first one yet... it's on the 'to acquire' list when it's about $20. Any single player game that requires me to be online won't get a run, the only time I play games is away from home with no uplink.

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