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Old 08-27-2002, 10:38 AM   #1
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Cool Gf4mx ??gf3??

Between Geforce3 and Geforce4 MX .......which have the best performance?
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Old 08-27-2002, 10:39 AM   #2
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Which GF3 card... MX cards are total dogs, even in the GF 4 line... stay with Ti cards.
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Old 08-27-2002, 10:54 AM   #3
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But will GF3 Ti series card cheaper when compared to GF4MX?
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Old 08-27-2002, 11:18 AM   #4
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The Ti will probably be more expensive, but it will blow the MX out of the water. The only gain of getting an MX is to be able to brag that you have a GF4.
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The GeForce 4 MX is a tuned GeForce 2, it has no improvements that the real GeForce 4 has.

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I guess I don't feel bad anymore about my geforce 2 if it is really as good as GF4.
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Old 08-27-2002, 12:52 PM   #7
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Maybe you read too fast, the GF4mx should not really be called a GF4 even. I guess they just slap the MX on the name of whatever GF is out at the time, or at least that is what they did. Put it this way, if my buddy told me he had a GF4, I would be little bit envious, upon finding out it was the GF4mx, I would feel like I had been lied to. The name just isn't very accurate.


For instance the GF4 is a DX8 card, the mx is dx7. Different generation kinda.

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Well Grimey, as said, the GeForce 3 is more powerful than the GeForce 4 MX.
But in your signature I can see that you don't have a real GeForce 2, you have a GeForce 2 MX, which is on GeForce 256 performance level and it doesn't have the same things that the GeForce 2 GTS includes. AFAIK the MX has only 2 pipelines and the GTS has 4, or MX has 1 and the GTS 3, I'm not sure, but it looks like this.
When I said "a tuned GeForce 2" I meant a real GeForce 2, the GTS or the Ultra, not the MX.

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Old 08-27-2002, 01:37 PM   #9
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Any gf3 based card is faster and better than all the gf4mx series..
even the gf3ti200 is faster/performs better than the gf4mx 460(top of the gf4mx)


The gf4mx series is really just an gf2mx with faster core/ram and some added features..

stay away from the gf4mx series.

my advice
get an gf3ti200/500 or an original gf3

or an gf4ti 4200!

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what's so bad about the gforce4mx series?
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From what I've seen, even a Geforce 3 Ti200 beat a Geforce 4 MX in benchmarks.
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Old 08-27-2002, 02:16 PM   #12
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well where do you want me to start


here are just a few points

the gf4mx series has no hardware support for

Environment Bump Mapping
Pixel Shader
Advanced Pixel Shader

as I SAID BEFORE ITs just an upgraded version of the gf2mx



while the gf3 series even the gf3ti200 has all these features
which make it faster and better while playin games/benchmarkin!


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Old 08-27-2002, 02:18 PM   #13
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From what I've seen, even a Geforce 3 Ti200 beat a Geforce 4 MX in benchmarks.

you are right...

even the slowest of the gf3 line (gf3ti200) can beat an gf4mx460 in benchmarks and in games!!

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they got good ppl at nvidia marketing dept., don't they?

the cards been out for about half a year and ppl are still confused as to what the cards are....
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GeForce 4 MX is just a bargain card. You'd be better off with a GeForce 2 TI.
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what's so bad about the gforce4mx series?
That they are not intended for gaming, but for office and home use. They don't even support nVidia's own nFiniteX II engine. As HAL stated: all MX cards (GF2 or GF4) are real dogs. You better avoid them if you're a gamer.
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Then I can see why it is not worth to buy MX cards........
As mention by grimfandango,it has no hardware support for Environment Bump Maping & Pixel Shader...........................which is my favourite.
Now I've only Geforce 2MX card which give quite low performance..
I haven't seen those realtime rendering..........
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That they are not intended for gaming, but for office and home use. They don't even support nVidia's own nFiniteX II engine. As HAL stated: all MX cards (GF2 or GF4) are real dogs. You better avoid them if you're a gamer.

yea, even when i'm shopping for cards, i go for the ti series, but i never gave any thought to the mx series.
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Old 08-29-2002, 01:05 AM   #19
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If you really want to see the difference between mx series and the ti series download the demos from nvidia, here is a link.
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=power_demos

I just returned the Geforce4 ti 4200 and got a mx 420. The mx 420 graphics really suck in these demos, but the 4200 did pretty good it is just that I am too pickey when it comes to graphics. I noticed some jagged lines and it was not smooth flowing, it was kinda jerky with both cards. I would probable be better off with the Geforce4 ti 4600 or the new 9700.
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Old 08-29-2002, 10:36 AM   #20
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The only reason to get a GF4 MX card is if you don't have an AGP slot - the GF4 MX420 is the strongest PCI gaming card available.
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The only reason to get a GF4 MX card is if you don't have an AGP slot - the GF4 MX420 is the strongest PCI gaming card available.
yea the mx420 pci is the best card for people who dont have an AGP SLOT!




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The only other PCI cards that can handle any modern games well at all are GF2 MX200's and MX400's, and ATI Radeon 7000's and 7200's (originals). There are some old Voodoos around too if you need Glide. Any other PCI cards are either cheapos or designed for graphics professionals, not gamers.
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Just to buck the trend, I've got a cheapo Inno3D GF2 MX440. It cost £30. It's fine for me because I mostly do programming, word processing, music and just a little gaming.

Having said that, it runs Max Payne extremely smoothly at 1024x768 with all the detail settings on high. Make what you will...
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