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10-08-2002, 02:16 PM
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questions about ti4200
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would the aopen ti4200 be a good card to get, or should i spend a little more for a visiontek or gainward? also, exactly how would i go about overclocking a card like this? thanks |
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10-08-2002, 02:18 PM
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or how about the albatron?
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10-08-2002, 02:37 PM
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I know AOpen makes good motherboards, but I'm not sure about their video cards. I'd say stick with a video card from Asus, Gainward, MSI or Leadtek.
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10-08-2002, 04:44 PM
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VisionTek went outta business a while ago.
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10-08-2002, 05:13 PM
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try abit. www.abit-usa.com I love the card I have.
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10-08-2002, 08:07 PM
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aopen has the best price on newegg...would that be a good one to go with?
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10-08-2002, 09:33 PM
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i have the aopen gf4 ti4200 128mb , before that i had the pny 4400, the aopen actually performs better in 3dmark than the 4400 did. I love the aopen and you cant beat the price of $150
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10-08-2002, 11:03 PM
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k, i think i'm gonna pick up the aopen. now would be a good time right...i mean, is there any reason to believe that the price is gonna drop soon? thanks
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10-08-2002, 11:06 PM
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The AOpen is a good card to buy esp. if $$ is an issue. If not, then Gainward would be the best choice.
Hardware prices always drop. There has been a recent price drop due to the new Radeons that came out. I'd say go for it and slap it in and enjoy! |
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10-08-2002, 11:10 PM
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what makes gainward the better choice?
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10-08-2002, 11:11 PM
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i was also thinking about overclocking it...but i don't have any experience with that. any advice? how would i go about doing that? is it difficult? thanks for the help
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10-09-2002, 08:34 AM
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Gainward is the better choice if you want to overclock it.
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10-09-2002, 08:59 AM
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The Gainward cards that say (golden sample) have been tested to be the cream of the crop. Golden sample cards have overclock software that come with them. Make sure you have plenty of extra cooling in your case.
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10-09-2002, 12:10 PM
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yes i have heard that gainward are the best cards, my aopen was easy to overclock also, all you have to do is adjust the slider bars in the display properties overclock menu to the desired mhz.
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10-09-2002, 01:36 PM
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Having oc'd two Gainwards...I'm extremely happy with them. The included software lets you overclock very easily. They're rock solid.
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10-09-2002, 02:21 PM
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Vote for Gainward.
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10-09-2002, 03:16 PM
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k, sweet
now about this cooling...i have a dell. it just has the case fan over the processor...will i need more cooling than this? |
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10-09-2002, 07:10 PM
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I understand your post to mean that there is one exhaust fan NEAR the CPU...there is also a fan ON the CPU too, right? And there is no fan that pulls in fresh air at the front of the case?
It probably wouldn't hurt to install a intake fan at the front of the case if there isn't one. It would get some more air moving through the case and cooler is better. |
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10-09-2002, 07:14 PM
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also if you are planning to overclock, get a pci slot fan for near your video card.
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10-09-2002, 11:12 PM
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haven't heard of those - (well, i do live in australia lol!)
do they just suck power from the pci slot? |
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10-10-2002, 12:29 AM
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exactly jason
i'm not sure if there is a place in the front for another case fan is heat a big issue when overclocking a video card? |
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10-10-2002, 09:46 AM
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Heat is always an issue when overclocking anything. There really isn't a place to put additional case fans in a Dell, so a slot fan in PCI slot 1 would be a good idea.
Jason - nope, Dell uses a humongo heatsink on the CPU and puts a plastic duct from the rear exhaust fan over the heatsink. Other than the power supply fan, that's the only cooling in that case. |
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10-10-2002, 06:43 PM
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so just that additional pci fan would be enough cooling? if i don't have adequate cooling, is it just going to shut off or will it toast the card?
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10-10-2002, 07:06 PM
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You will be fine adding a 4200 with that slot blower. The card shouldnt overheat without it but purchasing one of these: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...ry=1400&DEPA=1 would cool the card very well. If the card overheats, youll see "artifacts" on the screen, ie weird blocks/spots of color. If that happened, shut off the system and check on the cooling. It shouldnt toast the card, and with a blower, you wont have any problems.
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10-11-2002, 12:21 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only real cooling concern on that video card might be the ram chips - the GPU has a pretty nice heatsink/fan on it already. A slot blower would be a good investment, I'm just wondering about ram sinks.
Come to think of it, I have a customer that we put a GF4 Ti4400 into his Dell P3-1000 with that cooling setup - and it didn't overheat even with no slot blower. However, we did not do any overclocking. |
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10-11-2002, 08:39 PM
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True it would be the RAM chips that would potentially overheat, and not the HSF protected GPU, but from all of the video card ramsink reviews Ive read, they dont make much difference. After loading the card, the sinks drop temps about 2 degrees C. The slot blower would bring this kind of drop, if not more.
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