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GSXdan · 12-31-2002, 11:29 AM

What are your opinions on this? I was looking at getting the gainward/cardexpert GeForce 4 Ti4200 128Mb DDR, 3.6ns for $178 at newegg for my new build.

thanks ^dan

Evil-Lab-Monkey · 12-31-2002, 11:45 AM

I've heard that the first batch of those cards had some bad parts and many of them are faulty but if you get a good one, which I assume you will, they're great cards. I'm sure they have the issues cleared up by now but it's something to watch for.

Cruelcamper · 12-31-2002, 12:06 PM

For $10 more you can get a gainward ti4400 at gameve.com

Alienware_Dude · 12-31-2002, 12:09 PM

A Ti 4200/4400 is the best card out there under $200, by far. Gainward makes great cards, too.

GSXdan · 12-31-2002, 12:50 PM

have you ever bought anything from gameve.com? Their ratings look good on resellerratings.com, so they look pretty good. The Ti440 is $193 at newegg w/ free shipping, so depending on how the shipping is on gameve.com, i might get it at newegg.

thanks ^dan

Jeradln82 · 12-31-2002, 05:00 PM

If your set on Nvidea GPUs then go w/the 4200. But if your not, take a good look at ATI's Radeon 9500pro. Go check out the reviews. I've heard they're out of stock at most places right now, but be back after the new year.

I got this card for $198 at mwave.com. I've read the reviews myself, and this baby blows the Ti4200 away and bites at the heals of the 4600. Also If you wanted to be adventureous, you can Overclock the 9500pro and It will eat the Ti4600 for luch.
Just adding my 2cents

GSXdan · 12-31-2002, 08:06 PM

I was looking at some benchmarks, and the Ti 4400 beat the 9500pro in everything, and it is only $193 at newegg. This is a hard decision though, the 9500pro is dx9 ready, but the 4400 is only dx8. i dont know how long i will have to go until i need to get a new video card to support dx9. I guess i will have to read some more reviews. could someone post some links to some good reviews for the 9500pro and the Ti4400.

thanks ^dan

smokealotapotimus · 12-31-2002, 09:02 PM

The 9500 Pro and Ti4400 are so close, it probably really comes down to other factors that will affect the outcome of the tests performed by different people.

You can get a PowerColor 9500 Pro from newegg.com for around $170, as well as a Ti4200 (something like an Abit or MSI, which will also overclock) for around $130. Though one thing to think about is the fact that a Radeon 9500 Pro will slaughter even a Ti4600 with things like AF & AA enabled, and ATi card have better image quality.

j009h33rM3 · 12-31-2002, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeradln82
If your set on Nvidea GPUs then go w/the 4200. But if your not, take a good look at ATI's Radeon 9500pro. Go check out the reviews. I've heard they're out of stock at most places right now, but be back after the new year.

I got this card for $198 at mwave.com. I've read the reviews myself, and this baby blows the Ti4200 away and bites at the heals of the 4600. Also If you wanted to be adventureous, you can Overclock the 9500pro and It will eat the Ti4600 for luch.
Just adding my 2cents

if you want to overclock it, you better be willing to Flash your card and potentially turn it to scrap.

The nvidia cards are much friendlier to Overclockers.

Nuclear Krusader · 12-31-2002, 10:24 PM

A vote for the ATi. It has full support for DX9 and AGP 8x.

j009h33rM3 · 12-31-2002, 11:14 PM

Just make sure your motherboard supports AGP 8x, if not the performance differences will not be as great. Also there are no DX9 games out on the market......... yet.

I personally am going to wait for the Geforce FX. It's not too far off. Should arrive at least by early febuary.

And by then, games that actually support DX9 will be out on the market.

smokealotapotimus · 12-31-2002, 11:28 PM

I don't think that an FX will fit into his under-200 budget anytime soon.

j009h33rM3 · 12-31-2002, 11:58 PM

Hehe... got off topic.

But there will most likely be a budget version released.

Alienware_Dude · 01-01-2003, 12:53 AM

A GeForceFX-MX?

Nuclear Krusader · 01-01-2003, 01:02 AM

Note that the 9500 is just a smaller version of the 9700, but not a crippled version like the MX line of VCs.

GSXdan · 01-01-2003, 01:17 AM

My motherboard does support AGP 8x(Asus P4S8X). As of now I dont think I will be overclocking it so thats not really an issue. Not having dx9 support really makes me look to the 9500pro even more, because i dont want to have to go out and buy a new video card when the dx9 games come out. whats a good name to buy a 9500pro from?

thanks ^dan

DMD · 01-01-2003, 05:25 AM

GSXdan
To answer an ealier question of yours, I've ordered 3 times from Gameve.com with never a prob..

Dale..

j009h33rM3 · 01-01-2003, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alienware_Dude
A GeForceFX-MX?

Actually, I would think they would considerably drop the price of the Geforce 4 Ti series enough that it would steal away buyers of the 9000, and possibly even 9500s.

Haven't heard any speculation of an actual budget version of the card. If anything they'll repackage the Geforce 4 Ti's as Geforce FX MX, but I doubt anyone would buy into that name. By then speculation of the new ATI cards will probably be in full-effect, but I have faith in nVidia, and I think they will be top dogs once again next year.

LordofEchoSide · 01-01-2003, 01:23 PM

I heard that the budget FX will not have the cooling that takes a PCI slot

smokealotapotimus · 01-01-2003, 03:29 PM

As far as I know the budget version will take only one, not the two that the full-blown FX will supposedly take.

LordofEchoSide · 01-01-2003, 03:32 PM

I didn't know it would take 2

GSXdan · 01-01-2003, 04:04 PM

Is powercolor a good name to buy the 9500 pro from? its $189 at newegg.

thanks ^dan

Andrewxcav · 01-01-2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nuclear Krusader
Note that the 9500 is just a smaller version of the 9700, but not a crippled version like the MX line of VCs.

yes I like ATI for that, the 9500 is actually better than the 8500 where as a geforce 4 mx doesnt come close to a geforce 3 ti

Nuclear Krusader · 01-01-2003, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GSXdan
Is powercolor a good name to buy the 9500 pro from? its $189 at newegg.

thanks ^dan

I've heard good things about Powercolor. HAL9000 has mentioned he had used lots of them for builds and they perform very well.

j009h33rM3 · 01-01-2003, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smokealotapotimus
As far as I know the budget version will take only one, not the two that the full-blown FX will supposedly take.

There's not going to be a huge fan on the cheaper model, I wouldn't exactly call it the budget model though. Still should be around $300.

v1r4L fr3nzy · 01-02-2003, 03:15 PM

I recommended it once and Ill recommend it again: the ASUS V9280TD Geforce4 Ti4200 64MB

Jeradln82 · 01-02-2003, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by v1r4L fr3nzy
I recommended it once and Ill recommend it again: the ASUS V9280TD Geforce4 Ti4200 64MB

Hey, Just out of curiosity. Why the 64mb card and not the 128mb card?

12-31-2002, 11:29 AM	#1
GSXdan Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: P-burg, Ohio, USA Posts: 555	Best video card for less than $200 What are your opinions on this? I was looking at getting the gainward/cardexpert GeForce 4 Ti4200 128Mb DDR, 3.6ns for $178 at newegg for my new build. thanks ^dan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-31-2002, 11:45 AM	#2
Evil-Lab-Monkey Member (9 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 296	I've heard that the first batch of those cards had some bad parts and many of them are faulty but if you get a good one, which I assume you will, they're great cards. I'm sure they have the issues cleared up by now but it's something to watch for. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-31-2002, 12:06 PM	#3
Cruelcamper Member (6 bit) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: MD Posts: 39	For $10 more you can get a gainward ti4400 at gameve.com Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-31-2002, 12:09 PM	#4
Alienware_Dude Red Sox Nation Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,546	A Ti 4200/4400 is the best card out there under $200, by far. Gainward makes great cards, too. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-31-2002, 12:50 PM	#5
GSXdan Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: P-burg, Ohio, USA Posts: 555	have you ever bought anything from gameve.com? Their ratings look good on resellerratings.com, so they look pretty good. The Ti440 is $193 at newegg w/ free shipping, so depending on how the shipping is on gameve.com, i might get it at newegg. thanks ^dan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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12-31-2002, 05:00 PM	#6
Jeradln82 Member (10 bit) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 763	If your set on Nvidea GPUs then go w/the 4200. But if your not, take a good look at ATI's Radeon 9500pro. Go check out the reviews. I've heard they're out of stock at most places right now, but be back after the new year. I got this card for $198 at mwave.com. I've read the reviews myself, and this baby blows the Ti4200 away and bites at the heals of the 4600. Also If you wanted to be adventureous, you can Overclock the 9500pro and It will eat the Ti4600 for luch. Just adding my 2cents Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-31-2002, 08:06 PM	#7
GSXdan Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: P-burg, Ohio, USA Posts: 555	I was looking at some benchmarks, and the Ti 4400 beat the 9500pro in everything, and it is only $193 at newegg. This is a hard decision though, the 9500pro is dx9 ready, but the 4400 is only dx8. i dont know how long i will have to go until i need to get a new video card to support dx9. I guess i will have to read some more reviews. could someone post some links to some good reviews for the 9500pro and the Ti4400. thanks ^dan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-31-2002, 09:02 PM	#8
smokealotapotimus Member (9 bit) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 414	The 9500 Pro and Ti4400 are so close, it probably really comes down to other factors that will affect the outcome of the tests performed by different people. You can get a PowerColor 9500 Pro from newegg.com for around $170, as well as a Ti4200 (something like an Abit or MSI, which will also overclock) for around $130. Though one thing to think about is the fact that a Radeon 9500 Pro will slaughter even a Ti4600 with things like AF & AA enabled, and ATi card have better image quality. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-31-2002, 10:24 PM	#10
Nuclear Krusader Mondsreitersmann Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Skingrad Posts: 8,781	A vote for the ATi. It has full support for DX9 and AGP 8x. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Darum still, füg' ich mich, wie Gott es will. Nun, so will ich wacker streiten, und sollt' ich den Tod erleiden, stirbt ein braver Reitersmann.

12-31-2002, 11:14 PM	#11
j009h33rM3 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 145	Just make sure your motherboard supports AGP 8x, if not the performance differences will not be as great. Also there are no DX9 games out on the market......... yet. I personally am going to wait for the Geforce FX. It's not too far off. Should arrive at least by early febuary. And by then, games that actually support DX9 will be out on the market. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Last edited by j009h33rM3; 12-31-2002 at 11:18 PM.

12-31-2002, 11:28 PM	#12
smokealotapotimus Member (9 bit) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 414	I don't think that an FX will fit into his under-200 budget anytime soon. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

12-31-2002, 11:58 PM	#13
j009h33rM3 Member (8 bit) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 145	Hehe... got off topic. But there will most likely be a budget version released. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-01-2003, 12:53 AM	#14
Alienware_Dude Red Sox Nation Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,546	A GeForceFX-MX? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-01-2003, 01:02 AM	#15
Nuclear Krusader Mondsreitersmann Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Skingrad Posts: 8,781	Note that the 9500 is just a smaller version of the 9700, but not a crippled version like the MX line of VCs. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-01-2003, 01:17 AM	#16
GSXdan Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: P-burg, Ohio, USA Posts: 555	My motherboard does support AGP 8x(Asus P4S8X). As of now I dont think I will be overclocking it so thats not really an issue. Not having dx9 support really makes me look to the 9500pro even more, because i dont want to have to go out and buy a new video card when the dx9 games come out. whats a good name to buy a 9500pro from? thanks ^dan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Last edited by GSXdan; 01-01-2003 at 01:20 AM.

01-01-2003, 05:25 AM	#17
DMD Member (7 bit) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colo Sprgs,Colo Posts: 79	GSXdan To answer an ealier question of yours, I've ordered 3 times from Gameve.com with never a prob.. Dale.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-01-2003, 01:23 PM	#19
LordofEchoSide Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 614	I heard that the budget FX will not have the cooling that takes a PCI slot Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-01-2003, 03:29 PM	#20
smokealotapotimus Member (9 bit) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 414	As far as I know the budget version will take only one, not the two that the full-blown FX will supposedly take. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-01-2003, 03:32 PM	#21
LordofEchoSide Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 614	I didn't know it would take 2 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-01-2003, 04:04 PM	#22
GSXdan Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: P-burg, Ohio, USA Posts: 555	Is powercolor a good name to buy the 9500 pro from? its $189 at newegg. thanks ^dan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

01-02-2003, 03:15 PM	#26
v1r4L fr3nzy Member (9 bit) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 439	I recommended it once and Ill recommend it again: the ASUS V9280TD Geforce4 Ti4200 64MB Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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