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Old 01-05-2003, 08:22 AM   #1
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Modify the Radeon 9500 to a Radeon 9700

Anyone wanna try this?

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Old 01-05-2003, 10:15 AM   #2
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Hmmm...interesting. I've been considering a 9500 as a minor upgrade. Seems I'll be considering it a bit harder now.

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Would you actually go to the trouble of doing that, just for more MHz? Not to mention the(obviously)voided warranty. Plus, there's a chance you could wreck the card.
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Old 01-06-2003, 12:51 AM   #4
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For the price difference, Yes I would. As long as felt it was going to work. I like to solder on things for money!
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Old 01-06-2003, 11:02 PM   #5
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I would be scared out of my mind doing that. First off I'm probably the worst solderer in the world. I always burn the PCB and get way to much solder and get it everywhere. Second, I'm scared enough as it is removing the hsf from a gfx card. I replaced the hsf on my gf3, but it was terrifying. So I doubt I could do it without breaking it... although it would be sooo tempting......
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Old 01-08-2003, 07:39 PM   #6
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I wouldn't do it. As AWD said, you void the warranty. So if you "slip" you're out 180 bucks or whatever that site said. But, some people take that kinda risk to save 120 bucks and I can't blame them, but you'll never see me doing that kinda thing.
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Old 01-08-2003, 07:54 PM   #7
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Everything voids warrenties. Overclocking, most modding of anything, giving your gfx card a new hsf, etc. I wouldn't worry about the warrenty. It's just the slipping up and breaking it that would worry me.
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Old 01-08-2003, 08:30 PM   #8
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No need to do the soldering, that link has info on how to do a software mod to get those four extra pipes working, same thing, no messy solder. All you have to do is wait for the next edition of RivaTuner to come out.
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Old 01-08-2003, 08:43 PM   #9
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Oooh, very cool. Now I WOULD do that. I wonder how software is able to do that though? It seems like such a hardwareish thing to me.
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Old 01-08-2003, 08:53 PM   #10
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I cant find the link to the software mod. can u post that? I am getting a 9500pro soon for my new build so i might try this.

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This makes a 9500 into a 9500 Pro. It does that by enabling the additional four texture piplelines. Is there a way to make a 9500 Pro into a 9700? To do that it would need to make it a 256-bit memory bus instead of 128-bit. Can RivaTuner do that too?
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Old 01-09-2003, 04:55 AM   #12
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GSXdan the link is the same one that is at the top of the post, the site there has probably changed since this was first posted you can see it talking about the software solution there, but it does not state exactly how to do it, it simply states that when the next edition of RivaTuner will have the ability to do the upgrade. For the hardware mod go the last weeks headlines and the software mod is in this weeks headlines. Personally if I had the 9500 card I would be very hesitant on doing the hardware mod when it first came out, but since there is a software solution in the works I would definately not do the hardware mod but would definately do the software mod when it comes out.
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Old 01-09-2003, 08:36 AM   #13
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Only turns the 9500 64mb into a 9500pro w/64mb of memory. Apparently the 9500 128mb's were done on 9700pcb's so yes you can get a full 9700 spec, or perhaps 9700pro w/some OC'ing. Mine is in the mail and they are in stock at newegg. =)
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Old 01-09-2003, 08:37 AM   #14
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Oh... as far as link confusion. It's where rivatuner's main source has always been:
www.guru3d.com
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Old 03-29-2003, 08:26 AM   #15
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I got the 9500 non pro, and did the software mod - my 3dmark2001 benchmark went from 9400 to 11850! I think it worked.
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Old 04-02-2003, 07:47 AM   #16
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berethorn,
on the bottom of your card there should be "V(two digit number)" in ink can you tell me what that says? mine is V13.
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Old 04-03-2003, 10:21 PM   #17
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as far as i know, the 9500 pro is it. you cannot do anything further than ocing it.
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Old 04-04-2003, 12:01 AM   #18
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From RivaaTuner Site:
this SoftR9700 patch script can turn any 128-bit R9500 into 9500PRO and any 256-bit R9500 into R9700 without soldering the resistor on the R300 GPU and without loosing warranty!
Is there such a thing as a 256bit R9500?

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Old 04-04-2003, 02:34 PM   #19
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Sleepypost, you can mod the 256bit R9500 into a 9700.

Demosthenes, yes there is a 256bit R9500. It is the old Sapphire Radeon 9500 128mb version.
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Old 04-04-2003, 05:06 PM   #20
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mod didnt work for me i tried it a couple days ago.....
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Old 04-04-2003, 09:05 PM   #21
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What happened? Did it crash? Or did you get the checkerboard effect?
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Old 04-08-2003, 01:34 PM   #22
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Mine had chedckerboards, got a Sapphire 9700 non pro now. Got the samsung mem chips on it!!! Basically, a clock locked pro. googlegear btw.
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Old 04-14-2003, 05:43 PM   #23
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Ok, does the 128bit into 256bit dealie apply to any Saphire 128bit 128meg vid card???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????
Who has these for sale?



ANYONE???????????????????????????????
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Old 04-14-2003, 05:59 PM   #24
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I did it, works great. I overclocked my 9500 Non-pro after the 9700 mod to a 9700 pro

best investment i've ever made
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Old 04-14-2003, 06:05 PM   #25
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Ok, does the 128bit into 256bit dealie apply to any Saphire 128bit 128meg vid card???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????
Who has these for sale?



ANYONE???????????????????????????????
It doesn't turn a 128bit memory card into 256bit. It just enables the 4 extra pipelines so you have a total of 8. Newegg and www.allstarshop.com have the Sapphire 9500 128mb nonpro cards (not sure if they both still do I haven't checked for about a week)
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Old 04-14-2003, 06:29 PM   #26
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Ok is this the card?http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/prod...M1B7NGE9QD677#
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Old 04-14-2003, 06:33 PM   #27
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Ok, I have a 9500 pro with 128/128. If the 9500 non-pro card, as in the link, can be modded, does it give me anything I do not have now in the 9500 pro???
I guess I don't understand what can be modded to enable what. Mem width, whatever.

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Old 04-14-2003, 06:52 PM   #28
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Yes, that is the correct card.
I don't understand your question. The 128mb 256 bit memory 9500 non pro mods into a 9700. The 128mb 128 bit memory 9500 non pro mods into a 9500 pro. The 9500 pro doesn't mod into anything. The 9700 and 9700 pro don't mod into anything.
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Old 04-14-2003, 07:01 PM   #29
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smokin nvidia

I think i read some where,( tech connect) I believe, that said there was a software mod that would turn your nvidia card into a quadro in case your feeling left out. Have no idea what is special abut a quadro card but I just thought it may be interesting-he he! Will look and see if I can find the link-Mark
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Well, I am interested in the 256bit 9500, and I want to know if there are any left, and where they are.... That pretty much sums up what I want to do.

Now as to Quadro's and such, they are a very accurate gf4ti card, as in accurate in 3d dimensional space, that object is truly at this spot, kinda. That is very lacking in the gf4ti non quads, the less accurate you can be, the faster you can render an image, and a main reason I went to ati, the ati is 128bit (hope I member this right) accurate (nothing to do with mem width?) thru the whole pipe. The nvid drops to 64bit or less as I recall. In first person shooters, and I suppose combat flight sims, the accuracy of the ati card will be apparent. It (mathmatical accuracy) is a sought for feature by those who design intricate 3d parts for later manufacture, and in other graphics areas.


Anyone know where the 256bit 9500's are being held hostage?

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