Why do humans always suck?

[avx]

It seems like every game I play, if there are different species, and humans is one of them, the humans are almost always the weak ones. Take Starcraft for example, you have the Zerg(Bugs), Protoss(Advanced Aliens), and the Humans(wussies). With the Protoss' tier one units their base dmg is 16, and they have an HP of 180, but with the human tier one units, they do I believe 5 or 6 dmg, and have an HP of about 40, or 60, with the zergs, they have 50hp, 4 base dmg, but they have really good attack speed, so that evens out, where as the humans...they are very slow, and in order to have any type of formidable force, you need to atleast have time to set up a meant shield, siege your tanks, and have backup air support in order to take on even the slightest decent force from any other approaching enemy. Why do you think they do this? I mean I understand its humans vs aliens and they are all advanced and what not, but most of the weapons in that game are just lame tanks and bullets...thats it. What about are scuds? Chemical, Biological, they have nukes, but it really stupid how you have to do it, not to mention it takes forever...and it is fairly easy to counter. They need to start making games where humans actually use some of these cool weapons we got.

[sleepypost]

They do that because like all instances of the human imagination, everything good is beyond human capability. flying, walking through walls, having green skin.... etc.

[Spyda]

a good game that pits aliens againt humans that actually evens stuff out is alien vs predator

The humans have loads of armour and powerful weapons

The aliens are weaker but their whole body is a weapon

The predator has camuoflage and good weapons

[avx]

sleepypost - Thats not true, we got the cloning stuff down, and we are working on gene splicing...flying and what not cant be that far off.

Spyda - Havnt played that yet, matter of fact last predator game I played was on my 16bit sega genesis, Predator 2:New York. You like the game or is it kind of booring?

You guys hear they are making a movie based on aliens vs predator?

I dont know about you but I thought for the time period that they made those movies in, they did EXTREMELY well, I cant wait to see what it will look like when they have all the CGI, and Greenscreen Effects to work with now...Hope it doesnt lose the realistic look though...a CG'ed predator or alien would just look corny to me.

[Spyda]

theyd have to do it the old fashoined way, those aliens looked so real, and no i havent played on a sega genesis, never even seen one

[Evil-Lab-Monkey]

We play Starcraft all the time at school. Infact we just had an FFA aout 2 hours ago. I was 'toss and I was playing against 1 'toss, 1 zerg and 2 terrans. The 2 terran people did pretty well and one of them managed to win. You can do well with terran, they've got extremely powerful tanks, huge battleships and the ability to cloak. Nukes can be used effectively if you know what you're doing. It's easier to play as Protoss or Zerg but the terrans have major potential.

I had a quick 1v1 game afterwards and I mass marined my opponent and killed him without much trouble. Marines are cheap, quick to build, are the only base units with range and can attack air units as well. All three races are equally good, that's what's so great about Starcraft.

[avx]

Well...I see where your comming from. The terrans can be very effective, like you said, if used properly, the only bad thing is...those tanks pack a wallup, but if a few hand to hand units get close to them..its done...and if you want to use all those pretty ghosts, and cloke, and the big battleships you have to do some MAJOR teching, and if you screw up, or are unlucky enough to get the first rush or triple team, you are owned, no questions asked...

[gerberdude]

Originally posted by Spyda a good game that pits aliens againt humans that actually evens stuff out is alien vs predator The humans have loads of armour and powerful weapons The aliens are weaker but their whole body is a weapon The predator has camuoflage and good weapons

I remember the ads for AVP2 when it first came out. . .the tagline for it was something like this:
Aliens: Scale walls and spit venom
Predators: Move invisibly in any surroundings
Humans: Pack more weapons than a small European Nation

That ad campaign always garnered a chuckle from me and my friends.

Something about being the underdog and being human resonates with people as challenge that reflects a reality in their lives. How many of us have ever felt so down on our luck, like a marine stuck on a planet full of aliens with only a cache of arms and our wits? It's a chance to win where we may have failed in reality, and if we fail again, just hit restart. . .how satisfying. God blessed gaming.


Gerber

[i3OSS]

Oh my, you seriously do not know PRO terran users. there mad crazy they got like 6 nukes on ur base with a buttload of wraiths tanks and gols all raping you.

[morriswindgate]

You've been gaming too much!

[Spyda]

i dont know about the underdog, i always liked god mode

saying that, i might get black and white

[sleepypost]

avx, your reply excited me beyond belief! You are so right. When Man can actually find a way to fly, just him no plane or helicopter, that will be the day!

[i3OSS]

i think they already have that... sleepy, but its still in testing?

[avx]

IMHO - Flying is for the birds!

I want to get in on some of that genespicing stuff. The regeneration capabilities of a lizard, and the senses/agility of a cat. All I need after that is a cool suit and a symbol that will strike fear into the hearts of evil do'ers, and I will be out fighting crime every night.

[Spyda]

all lizards can do is regrow a tail, and it takes ages, im sure a spider can regrow its legs, maybe it does it faster

[avx]

Are you sure spiders can regrow legs??? Last I checked Arachnids were related to family Mollusca characterized byhard exoskeletons, and soft liquid like inner bodies, which would make aracnids incapable of regrowing limbs, because there is no cell structure in their legs that can be regrown.

What you have to understand about the lizard regrowing gene is that, once you can harness it, and restructure another animals genes to include that gene sequence, you would obviously be able to enhance that gene as well. Lizard tails take about 2 weeks to regrow, not completly, but the new tail is forming. So we can assume that in humans, with proper, gene enhancement and nutrition, the regrowth of a arm or leg would take about a month, possibly shorter. Month may seem like a long time, but it will be back wont it??

[homer15]

i noticed this in halo, also... whenever you are dropped with a bunch of other marines, chances are you're the only one that lives. even on the easiest game setting.

[sleepypost]

avx, you make it sound so simple! my dad is in Biotechnology (molecular biology) and he would laugh histerically at your bluntness! He even gets a chuckle out of X-men.

[aym]

Not only in Starcraft, in Warcraft III the human is the weakest too IMO, I play with all the other races, but not the human.

[avx]

sleepypost - Ask your dad what his first day of work was like as a biotech, and then ask him what how his last day of work was...Once you deal with it long enough it is simple...no need to over complicate the basics

I had a teacher in middle school who actually used to work for the government, he was a scientist, and he ALWAYS used to talk about mutations, gene sequences, altering those sequences, cloning...I ironically had the guy all 3yrs in middle school, the first few months you didnt know what the heck he was talking about, but he could break it down SO WELL! Funny that you mentioned X-men, he always used them as the hook(attention getter) if you wernt a total lame brain you would just get the hang of everything he meant.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE WEAKNESS OF HUMANS!!! OVERCOMPLICATION...Everything has to be impossible to us...if we just put a little effort into it, we accomplish it, think of Kennedy and his space program...We just need a little initiative

[Spyda]

isnt that still undecided whether that was actually propaganda filmed in a studio?

[homer15]

Originally posted by Spyda isnt that still undecided whether that was actually propaganda filmed in a studio?

either way, it took initiative.

[Evil-Lab-Monkey]

I think the moon rocks kind of decide it.

[avx]

Well, the thing with the moon rocks is this...

Its a FACT that meteors hit our planet reasonably often...So it could be argued that they staged the moon landing, and used meteors that had hit the earth as the moon rocks. I wouldnt put it past our goverment to have lied to win the space race...most important thing in any competition is that you dont lose the initiative, and if russia would have made it before us...would have been a major blow to the american psychy/ego, but I think we made it...and even if we didn't it can be argued that we were still smarter than them by making a staged landing, so we deserved to win

[Spyda]

have you ever seen lava rock? looks very 'other planet'

[avx]

yeah, but they would need the meteor rocks/moon rocks(whichever you believe) to contain sources of unnatural minerals, with certain degrees of radiation only found in sapce... or else any mineral analysis they did would turn up known earth minerals, and they would be busted...and all that hard work would be for nothing.

[gerberdude]

There is no question that subsequent apollo missions made it to the moon. However, i always enjoy the debate about the initial moon landing. . .It does seem kinda hoaxy. . .

We know that we've been there since then though, because of the scientific instruments that astronauts have put there. For instance, they can measure to within like a centimeter how far it is to the moon at any given time because of a laser target they left there on a later mission.

Gerber

[Spyda]

do you think they let someone else 'test' these 'moon rocks' it would all have been done in house, they wouldnt need actaull space rocks

[avx]

Nope, your wrong about that, the Government works for us, we can call for an independent test of the rocks, and the government must either comply or they are once again, busted...

I believe they have already had those tests anyway, the USGS requested a sample of the moon rocks for study and testing shortly afte the first mission that supposedly recovered them brought back. Of course there is always that possibility that it could have ALL been rigged, and USGS was playing along too...

[Spyda]

thats what i meant, in house, as in the testers were in on it, like, they wouldnt let some russians come along and test them, theyd have some third party government back hander come do it