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Old 04-03-2003, 05:06 PM   #1
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fqpissed Half-Life 2 To Be Nvidia Exclusive?

http://warp2search.net/article.php?s...rder=0&thold=0

thats really going to suck if thats true. now are you going to need 2 computers now?

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Old 04-03-2003, 05:13 PM   #2
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If that happens I say boycott the game developer and the chip manufacturer. If I wanted a Nintendo I would buy one. A computer is supposed to be a universal device and computer users should not let these artificial limitations be put in.

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that's a pretty wack idea
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I'm with Trent Steel. Although I have no interest in HL2, I think going hardware-specific is a terrible idea. Notice that most of those defending the decision are using nVidia cards. Hmmmm.....
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i don't buy it. sierra would be sealing it's own fate with all of the people that just bought 9700's.
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I'm sure they'll find a workaround it which is deserved
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Old 04-03-2003, 05:26 PM   #7
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yea you go out and buy 2 vid cards

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Old 04-03-2003, 05:42 PM   #8
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If that happens I say boycott the game developer and the chip manufacturer. If I wanted a Nintendo I would buy one. A computer is supposed to be a universal device and computer users should not let these artificial limitations be put in.
i agree....i am going to buy an 9700 pro soon.....oh well wasnt really looking forward to hl2 anyway
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Old 04-03-2003, 05:46 PM   #9
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I am very interested in HL2, but I would not buy it if they did this, I can understand something working better on one chip vs the other, but not all and nothing
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Old 04-03-2003, 06:01 PM   #10
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Rediculous...O well, I love Half Life...Was looking forward to half life 2, but I aint gonna play into their marketing conformity skeem...

If NVidia wants to keep an edge on the market they should stop making second rate products and start giving ATI a run for their money instead of bowing down like little *******
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Old 04-04-2003, 12:13 AM   #11
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My dear, avx487, the article said nothing about nVidia investigating to make HL2 only NVx compliant, it said Valve was investigating. Unless you saw this somewhere else, I would believe it to be a Valve conspiracy, not an nVidia one. And nVidia does not make second rate equipment; ATi would not be doing so well without having built upon nVidia's R&D. My guess is you will see nVidia taking a page out of the ATi book.

The rant being done; I highly doubt anyone would produce the game if Valve did decide to do that since it would significantly cut profits. And, secondly, if it was crippled like that, there would be so many hacks for it, it would be ridiculous.

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Old 04-04-2003, 12:42 AM   #12
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It reminds me of the time when publishers started to release demos "for 3dfx only".

I won't buy that game if my ATi VC is not supported.
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Old 04-04-2003, 04:16 AM   #13
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thats stupid, plain and simple, im Nvidia and i think its ridiculous, i hate sierra anyway
and AWD, you say the Nvidia owners are defending it, why? if it did happen, how long until ATi only games?
ooh im getting all mad now
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Old 04-04-2003, 02:39 PM   #14
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That would be outright stupid.
I hope someone tell them so.
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Old 04-04-2003, 02:48 PM   #15
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i'm sure there are plenty of boards accross the internet voicing their opinion on the subject.
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Old 04-04-2003, 02:49 PM   #16
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did you read all of that article?
it says that each GPU maker has been in talks with different game developers for some time about card specific games
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Old 04-04-2003, 05:53 PM   #17
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I would definetly organize a half life boycott.
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Old 04-04-2003, 08:49 PM   #18
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I think it's a bit humorous that all the recent ATI bandwagon jumpers are angry about this rumor (which most likely isn't true anyways). I did see a couple of Nvidia owners who said they didn't like it, but mostly people with Radeons.

*giggle*
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I think it's a bit humorous that all the recent ATI bandwagon jumpers are angry about this rumor (which most likely isn't true anyways). I did see a couple of Nvidia owners who said they didn't like it, but mostly people with Radeons.

*giggle*
that's to be expected
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Old 04-04-2003, 10:37 PM   #20
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"If it comes to what they outline there will soon be Nvidia and ATI gamers. "
The above is a quote from the article.
I'd say having pc games as balkanized as console gaming is not in any pc gamer best interest.
What games are you planning on not playing because you have an NVidia card?
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Old 04-04-2003, 11:43 PM   #21
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I've got a Nvidia card but I don't support that kind of a decision. The main reason I game on PC is because I can play ANY game, not just the ones that come out on a certain console. I'd love to get HL2 but if it's card specific I'll boycot on priciple. It would be the start of a lot of problems.

What's next, CPU specific games? RAM specific games? I can see it already:

System Requirements for Quake 4:

Intel Pentium 5 (will not run on AMD CPU)
DDR Ram (will not run on RAMBUS)
ATI RADEON card (Nvidia cards not supported)
Logitech mouse & Keyboard (Microsoft not supported)
Green power LEDs (all other colors not supported)

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Old 04-05-2003, 03:42 AM   #22
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"will only run in a pioneer DVD drive and only save on a seagate HDD"

madness i tell ya!
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Old 04-05-2003, 03:57 AM   #23
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My dear, avx487, the article said nothing about nVidia investigating to make HL2 only NVx compliant, it said Valve was investigating. Unless you saw this somewhere else, I would believe it to be a Valve conspiracy, not an nVidia one.
I peeps may be assuming thats is a Nvid conspirasy because it makes much more sense -

Nvidia will benefit from having specific demand game titles, the same way consoles do (e.g halo -xbox and mario -gamecube) they do work, people will buy an xbox because its got halo on it. The same way that if one of the graphics cards has more demand games which work specifically on that card people will choose that one over the one which only works with crap games.

But why valve would limit themselves to one graphics card is beond belief - they will not gain anything from it they will halve there game sales - its in a gaming companys intrest to sell the most games and the only way they can do that is buy producing it on the most platforms..... Unless a console or graphics card has payed them enough money to tempt them to make specfic games. There would be no way bungie would say "micorsoft i want halo to just be xbox specific (i know its coming out on pc ) please" cause they will just say "kool fine with me we get loads outta it and well you get jack **** apart from limiting your consumer market"

sorry about the rant

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I would be willing to bet money fellows, that this is only pure speculation. Probably a nasty rumor set forth by some young-un, still wet behind the ears and more than willing to "stir the pot" if you will. Just wanting to get someone's goat and pull an April fool's jest.

I still think it's a bit funny though.

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Old 04-05-2003, 09:09 AM   #25
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I wouldn't dismiss the idea entirely of chip specific games, especially if a developer was being extremely well "compensated" by the chipset manufacturer.

At the moment, we have NVidia and ATI in the lead (in terms of gaming), with Matrox and Kyro bringing up the rear.

As NVidia and ATI are always neck and neck speed-wise, in real terms there is really little to distinguish one from the other in the eyes of the great PC gaming public or indeed many retailers.

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Concerned customer: "My son's been nipping my ear about his latest and greatest games (Pointy-Clicky Bearded Men in Tights Slaying Orcs and DeltaSAS Special Forces Totally Invincible Combat Grannies) running slow on his PC. So I want to buy a new graphics card. What have you got?"

Bored and contemptuous PC Shop assistant:

"This ATI and this NVidia". If you want cheap (contemptuous sneer), you have this Kyro."

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"Good choice. You obviously know your graphics cards."

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That being so, having games assigned to only one graphic's chipset might be a valuable way of giving either company a slight edge on the other.

An even more interesting scenario, would be if Matrox or Kyro beat the big boys to it.

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Old 04-05-2003, 09:20 AM   #26
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this guy had a good point too http://www.3dchipset.com/index.php#1382

not everybody knews whats in there computers

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I think it's a bit humorous that all the recent ATI bandwagon jumpers are angry about this rumor (which most likely isn't true anyways). I did see a couple of Nvidia owners who said they didn't like it, but mostly people with Radeons.

*giggle*


Well, darn right someone who shelled out $300+ for a new video card is going to be a little upset that a game *may* be released that won't run on it! And for the record, I wasn't(and am not)on any 'bandwagon'; I just saw a superior product from ATI, and decided to go with it. I'm not an 'ATI fanboy', or a 'bandwagon jumper'.
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Old 04-06-2003, 04:38 AM   #28
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Its okay we will let you off just this once cause everyone knows NVidia are so much better than ATI!

.......disclaimer - that sentance has nothing to do with me and using it to attempt to argue about which graphics card is the best will result in free tickets to the jerry springer show......or not aas the case may be. The sentence was just intended to whip up a storm of frenzied replys.....heres hoping it works! GO JERRY GO JERRY!

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i dont think there is any point in an argument, they are for the most part the same performance, wohoo 2000 points in 3DMark, so what
i chose my card because it was the best for the money
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me too. I probably COULD'VE squeezed out the extra cash for a 9700 Pro, but hey, the 9500 Pro gives slightly less for A LOT LESS dough. When Video cards hit 512 mb, then ill upgrade next...
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