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Old 04-11-2003, 07:38 PM   #1
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Half-Life + ATI
I just installed my ATI 9500 non-pro and modded it to 9800. well I'm not sure if that has to do with anything but in half-life mods I now get extremely low FPS and with my GF2 MX I can get 85. what's the problem?
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Old 04-12-2003, 08:23 PM   #2
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There are about 15 pages of thread on the subject over at rage3d...
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Old 04-12-2003, 08:43 PM   #3
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lol yeah I saw that yesterday. It's a shame there's no fix for it.
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are you sure? mine works fine and i dont find anything choppy, only when the "Loading..." sign appears, but thats normal.
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yes I'm sure. did you check out that long thread at www.rage3d.com
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Wow, I was pumped for an upgrade to a 9700Pro until now. I was hoping for a great upgrade from my Geforce 2 and now I am rethinking it. Is ATI putting out a batch of defective cards?
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Old 04-13-2003, 05:58 PM   #7
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I think it's the drivers. the reason I bought the ATI was because they said they fixed the drivers
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http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33679225
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You are using D3D in Half Life correct? A friend of mine had problems w/CS and not having D3D enabled was the problem.

My ATI runs CS great. I get 90+ fps. Usually stays around 98-100 unless I'm in a big gun battle then it may drop to 80+
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Old 04-14-2003, 11:02 AM   #10
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D3D is just as bad
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Sometime I wish all the games rendered in OpenGL.....
Not one for D3D,hahahahahha
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Old 04-14-2003, 02:38 PM   #12
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http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33679225
Great link Blakhart. I'll be glad to put my fears to rest when I see some posts on the Catalyst 3.3s fixing these problems.
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Alaron, you cant blame the card when you modify it to a 9800!
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Alaron, you cant blame the card when you modify it to a 9800!
Regardless of what it can be modded into, if the card doesnt perform to expectations in games, like LordofEchoSide is saying, it is not a great card. When the drivers fix the problems people are having, Ill retract my statement. Until then, ATI isnt top dog in my book.
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Old 04-16-2003, 08:38 PM   #16
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I just put back my Geforce. who wants to but a 9500? {8D
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Old 04-16-2003, 10:31 PM   #17
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Alaron, then it is the drivers you dislike (which i do too), not the card itself.

LordofEchoSide, is it the Saphire 9500 with the four pipelines? How much would you sell it for?
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Hey! I want it! ME ME!!!
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Alaron, then it is the drivers you dislike (which i do too), not the card itself.
Well, when I say card I mean the whole thing, Card and Drivers. My basic point is, if the card isnt performing as expected, its not a great card to buy.
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Alaron, then it is the drivers you dislike (which i do too), not the card itself.

LordofEchoSide, is it the Saphire 9500 with the four pipelines? How much would you sell it for?
do you mean the so that it can be modded to the 9800? if so, yes it can. but I'm gonna wait for the 3.3 drivers (they say they're coming this month) and see if it fixes HL.
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wait, so you MIGHT sell it? If the drivers don't work, and it is in good condition, ill buy it for 100 bucks.
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haha. I bought it for 170 :-/
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yea, but its used (got dust on it probably). Also, the street price for a used 9500 non-pro is around 100 bucks. (ok, i made that part up)
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:-p I hope those 3.3's come out soon
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ATI's drivers have always sucked compared to nVidia
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Old 04-25-2003, 03:32 PM   #26
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Hey!

No that's ok, they have had probs before.
Now the ati drivers rock, and the image quality lays waste to nvid!!!!!


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Old 04-25-2003, 08:44 PM   #27
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Sorry, perhaps I overgeneralized. They have had a consistent pattern of driver problems, I'm glad to hear of their recent successes.
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Old 04-25-2003, 09:06 PM   #28
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hl won't run well because if the drivers...
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Yeah but they are trying to fix that.



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Sell me the card.....
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Hope yall realize it's just a driver hack. Now a 9700 it might be, but a 9800, it will never be. That hack helps pretty much just 3dmark. If you were successful with the 9700, no checkerboards, Id tick with that rather than having problems. Your turning on pipes, they work, leave 'em. The 9800 thing is just weird.
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