CS Question

[Prader Willi]

I have a home phoneline LAN, and two copies of halflife (e.g., two serial numbers for CS). Why can't both computers be connected the the PcM server at the same time? When one is connected to the PCM server, the other computer does not seem to be able to connect to PcM but can connect to other servers on the internet.

Is there a way to do this?

[Floppyman]

Here's a guess.....you once told me that you were sharing your connection...well maybe you can't log on to the server with the same ip address twice..as both computers are technically using the same internet ip (not internal network ip)...and the one connection is just being shared. Does this make sense or am I way off? HTH

[Xayd]

I would suspect that Floppyman is right. A co-worker mentioned to me that he couldn't play through his router firewall due to several failed ident requests from the CS server.

Xayd

[Prader Willi]

OK, darn, I bought a retail copy of CS thinking my son and I could play CS on the same server at the same time. He can play on other servers, just not the same one I am on.

Hmmm, how about if I am the server? I'll try that next.

[Tiretool]

This is weird, but if you run a dedicated server on port 27016 and start a separate game on 27015 you can play on your dedicated server on the same machine. Sounds iffy, but it works. I don't think this will help you at all with your situation but it's still cool.

Ok I'll shut up now.

[Floppyman]

Yeah it works....I have been playing Counterstrike on the 2 machines on our LAN with the same Copy of HL for some time. The way I do it is this: I set my computer up as the serve with port 27015....start the server on my computer..the other computer connects...and I join my own computer through gamespy on my computer..yes it works that way I suppose I could just use port 27016...but I like to do things the hard way Prader, are you having problems playing CS on your LAN or on the Internet?

As a general rule use port:

27015- to setup a dedicated server you don't intend to play on (you can still play on the machine with this port as I mentioned above through using gamespy...no clue as to why though)
27016- to setup a server and be able to play on it as well (decreases performance, but with 2 people playing it shouldn't matter if you have a decent system). Also in that case try to use the faster computer as the server if you intend to play on the server.

[Prader Willi]

There is no problem playing together using the home network. It's just when I'm connected to an online server. The other computer cannot connect to the same server but can connect to a different server and can act as a server.

My son and I could play together on the lan using one copy of halflife; however, when I was playing on the internet he could not join any games (probably because of the lack of a unique serial number). That's why I bought the retail version. This fixed half of the problem.

Gotta be a way to solve this--

Hey Tiretool-- when you do that, what kind of ping do you get? Is it still 0?

[Edited by Prader Willi on 02-17-2001 at 08:32 AM]

[Tiretool]

It's usually like 5 or 10... but still low enough that it's virtually no lag.

[mosquito]

Strange, we do it all the time. We usually play with 5 people on the lan, and we connect all to the same internet server. I think it's a matter of configuration on the server. And maybe it is to prevent cheating. (connect with 2 PC's and let one follow the C's when you are T or something.)

It's only a guess, but I can assure you that it works.

[Prader Willi]

The problem appears to be inherent to the home phoneline network and the internet sharing software. Only one IP address is broadcast to the internet, the internal IP address is hidden. Correct me if this wrong.

I'm buying a new house soon, looks like I'll need to wire the LAN through a hud-- I assume that is what you guys are doing? When that happens I'll ask for your recommendations on how to do this.

The Home phoneline works great for everything else, but if it won't allow this, then it is not acceptable.

[mosquito]

No, we have a proxy server here that exposes 1 IP address to the internet, and no problems at all.