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Old 11-30-2004, 10:05 PM   #1
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Just a sample

Tonight, I thought I would post a small sample of why I hate MSI boards (since I get asked this all the time). I have dealt with them at a wholesale level and always felt that their quality control was quite low.... to the point that one out of six boards was a dud right out of the box. Too often, the argument I would get back is that "MY" MSI board works fine so you don't know what you're talking about... ok.. I've dealt with thousands of the things and one person tells me they are fine... I must be wrong Anyway... I thought I would post this after I had a customer having nothing but trouble with his MSI board and my favorite of hated chipsets, the VIA, a nice shot of how these guys can't even properly apply the heatsink grease to the chipset. Take a close look, not only is all the grease off to one side, you can see the center of the chip isn't even making contact. Well, a nice cleanup and some properly applied grease and the system runs a LOT better. It sounds rather trvial, but think about it, what other areas are lacking in quality control when the heatsink can't even be properly installed from the factory.

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Old 11-30-2004, 10:08 PM   #2
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Excellent shot!

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Old 11-30-2004, 10:09 PM   #3
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Oh yea.. and that is MY hand in the shot
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Old 11-30-2004, 10:37 PM   #4
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I have heard alot of split opinions on those msi's

think I'll go with hal, though.

that pic kind of seals the deal.
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Old 11-30-2004, 11:16 PM   #5
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That paste application is definitely sad. Do you know if the paste at big companies like that is put on by someone or if it's applied by an automated machine?
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Old 11-30-2004, 11:21 PM   #6
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It's done by hand.
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Old 11-30-2004, 11:21 PM   #7
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Actually, I would assume a machine.
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Old 11-30-2004, 11:25 PM   #8
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HAL9000,

Which boards do you like?
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Old 11-30-2004, 11:26 PM   #9
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ASUS and Intel.
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Old 12-01-2004, 12:03 AM   #10
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What was the model of the mobo, Dave?
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Old 12-01-2004, 07:42 AM   #11
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Don't remember off hand... it had VIA on it and that was enuf for me to hate it LOL
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did you tell the customer that hes giving MSI/Via a bad name by doing crappy workmanship?
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:25 AM   #13
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In my experience with MSI boards, I had two out of four dodgy boards. They also had Via chipsets, and it was the customer that provided the boards. One of them was DOA, and the other died after about a day. I have never bought an MSI board, and after working with those four, I am not planning on working with any.
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:49 AM   #14
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did you tell the customer that hes giving MSI/Via a bad name by doing crappy workmanship?
This isn't the customers crappy workmanship... this is a sample of what I see comes from MSI.
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I hate my MSI board with a passion... though I see a new board (actually a new build) before the year is out

Never going MSI again... why? well I was talked into this one and it is just so tempermental, even though it claims it is OC'able it certainly isn't (well not mine) and the IDE sockets are badly placed, and there is a niggling power up problem which just wont go away (tried a new and better PSU).

The only thing it has going for it is that it looks good and I can upgrade the CPU to 3.2GHz I think... we live and learn.
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Old 12-01-2004, 03:10 PM   #16
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personally, i have never had a dodgy MSI motherboard, but ive read tons of horror stories. i just cant get over the sloppy thermal grease application on that northbridge. my NF7-S also had a crappy thermal grease application....the layer on it was only the diameter of a pea. i used an MSI in a recent build for my brother. its not a bad board, but the thing that gets me the most is that the designers were lazy enough not to put metal rings around the right side mounting holes forcing me to use plastic standoffs on the WHOLE right side. one thing i cant stand are plastic standoffs. maybe its just not the QC doing a bad job, the designers are also at fault as far as im concerned.
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