Pc manufacturers FINALLY putting graphics cards into pcs

[mountainking]

recently ive noticed that many companies like gateway, dell, hp, emachines, etc.. have actually been putting graphics cards into their systems instead of onboard. Of course they are bottom end.. but it gives you room for expansion at least. like a year ago i purchased an hp and it only came with stupid onboard video and no agp slot for expansion. It was pathetic. The system was usless without a good graphics card for any games. On highest settings i got delays in simple games like just warcraft 3.

[ComputerNut]

This isnt very recent. My dell, which I got 2 years ago, has an ATi RADEON 9800. And a dell 8100 I had to fix at work, has an Nvidia Geforce 2 MX GPU. Actually some of these systems dont even have onboard video anymore. My dell doesnt.

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[rightcoast]

Yep agreed that it might be less common, but not a new development. I took a bad 16MB ATI card out of a Dell Optiplex that had a 1.5GHz P4 proc this week.

Lots of Matrox cards in the old ones too.....

You have to remember as hard as it is to believe with all the OC'ing sites we all know and gaming mags etc...

Gaming on a PC is deemed pointless by over 95 percent of the people that own a computer, unless you consider Pogo.com "gaming"

[digitalfreedom64]

Indeed, Don't have it anymore but i had a del like 3 or 4 years ago that had a video card. It sucked but it was a vid card.

[ZeratulsAvenger]

Now as long as they don't talk about the "Fantastic awesome mind-blowing graphics that the FX5200" will make, then I will be happy... Hate seeing talk that a card like that(I seemed to see it everywhere for awhile) would run the latest and greatest games...

[shadowbreaker513]

Originally Posted by ZeratulsAvenger Now as long as they don't talk about the "Fantastic awesome mind-blowing graphics that the FX5200" will make, then I will be happy... Hate seeing talk that a card like that(I seemed to see it everywhere for awhile) would run the latest and greatest games...

Heh, I know what you mean. This guy in my VB.NET class calls me an idiot with computers because I killed my video card and thinks he knows everything, while he thinks that his computer is best suited for games with an fx5200 ultra and an aspire/x-connect psu. Marketing brainwashed mb?

[thefultonhow]

Originally Posted by mountainking recently ive noticed that many companies like gateway, dell, hp, emachines, etc.. have actually been putting graphics cards into their systems instead of onboard. Of course they are bottom end.. but it gives you room for expansion at least. like a year ago i purchased an hp and it only came with stupid onboard video and no agp slot for expansion. It was pathetic. The system was usless without a good graphics card for any games. On highest settings i got delays in simple games like just warcraft 3.

All of the computers my family has ever purchased (a Gateway from 1995, a Dell from 1998, an ABS from 1999, and a Dell from 2002) have had dedicated graphics cards and no onboard option. Same with my grandmother's Gateway from 1999. It really depends on how high-end the system is -- for example, Dell's Dimension 2400 and 3000 systems do not have a dedicated graphics option because they are low-end, but the 4600 and 4700 have both integrated graphics and an AGP (4600) or PCI-E (4700) slot (all previous 4000-series computers had only dedicated graphics), and the 8000-series Dimensions have always had dedicated graphics as the only option.

Basically from the dawn of personal computing, there have been computers with only onboard graphics, only dedicated graphics, and a choice of both. Nothing here is a new development.

[Jaggannath]

Originally Posted by shadowbreaker513 Heh, I know what you mean. This guy in my VB.NET class calls me an idiot with computers because I killed my video card and thinks he knows everything, while he thinks that his computer is best suited for games with an fx5200 ultra and an aspire/x-connect psu. Marketing brainwashed mb?

haha... anyone who tries to tell me their rig is better than mine I switch off and don't listen to. They don't seem to understand it's not whose computer is best, but who's the happiest with theirs. He's obviously suffering a little penis envy (if I may be so bold as to use that word in these forums)