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Old 06-15-2005, 08:17 AM   #31
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Just curious:
did Mr Jobs get permission from Mr. Gate?
dont Mr Gate, er... MicroSoft, owns a portion of Apple?
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Am I wrong?
No MS doesn't own any part of Apple. They did invest (bribe) $150M in Apple awhile back. The reasons aren't quite clear but there is plenty of speculation. Some would say that it was done to make IE the default browser in Mac's. More likely is that MS wanted Apple to keep going because they were making some good money on Office for the Mac.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:37 AM   #32
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yep, x86 architecture. Looks like they're taking the Dell/Gateway route by only allowing the installation of the software when certain hardware is detected.

I can't tell from the article if they're going to be using the BIOS to determine this, or an ID in the CPU (if they do it with the CPU, I'm guessing they're going to be using id technology similar to what was found in some PII's)
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Old 06-15-2005, 01:34 PM   #33
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no i think they are going to make it so that the OS works on only certain chipsets and the chipsets will only be offered in apple systems.
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:24 PM   #34
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Whatever they do there's still a good chance somebody will figure out how to install it on other hardware. Whether or not there will be any drivers for that hardware would remain to be seen. Apple aren't going to bundle chipset drivers for other chipsets etc..
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:35 PM   #35
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I guess that's going to be the whole issue on how Apple defines its role going forward - does it want to be known as a hardware developer or a software developer. Throughout its history, Apple has been sticking to its guns of being a hardware developer.
If Apple is to dominate the PC segment, it needs to step away from trying to make expensive, but oh so pretty hardware (at least for the personal computing segment) and try to become a software developer only. This might be the only chance it gets to make some inroads into this huge market waiting out there.

The Apple OS has been historically wonderful, what's stifled popularity has been their own ridiculous controls. I dont know how they are going to deal with it, but if it were me, I would give up trying to hawk pretty boxes exclusively and try to create a platform (the OS has shown to be well capable of converting people). It isn't even that they should probably look at potential losses from not being able to sell as many of their hardware devices .. they should perhaps also take stock that people dont want to try out their OS because of their expensive hardware... & subsequent limited software.
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Looks like Apple could be using a hardware based approach to stop you using OSX on a regular PC:

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...block-non-macs
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thats kinda what i figured they'd do. Apple is never going to let the general public use OSX. But what they dont realize is that OSX isnt good enough to spend 2k on a brand new system just so you can use it.
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Interesting dilemma for Apple : http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-5749940.html .. Dell would be interested in the OSX if Apple allows it.
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Well, heres the system, XP installs without a hitch apparently, OS X does not install on a regular PC though.

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0506intelmac.html
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Well, heres the system, XP installs without a hitch apparently, OS X does not install on a regular PC though.

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0506intelmac.html
This is really starting to scare me - I hope that this won't be the case for the final release.

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I still cant figure out what Steve Job's ultimatly is attempting to do. Why not continue down the same path as before selling proprietary AAPL machines with the AAPL OS? An INTC machine does not seem like a Mac. Maybe thats the problem Macaholics are having?

Some wise guy will eventually crack the AAPL OS code...IMHO. It's already happened to RIAA a few times....not that I condone it.

Can AAPL legally stop a PC manufacturer from a making a machine that can run the Mac OS?
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