How do you want to Vista today?

[Statica]

Ye gods is all I can say ...
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...a_editions.asp

Originally Posted by From the site Windows Vista product edition categories There will be two general categories of Windows Vista editions, which map closely to the two that exist today for XP ("Home," which comprises Starter, Home, and Media Center Editions, Pro, which includes Professional, Professional x64, and Tablet PC Editions). In Windows Vista, the two categories are Home and Business. In the Home category, Microsoft will create four product editions: Windows Vista Starter Edition, Windows Vista Home Basic Edition, Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, and Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (previously known as "Uber" Edition). In the Business category, there will are three editions: Windows Vista Small Business Edition, Windows Vista Professional Edition (previously known as Professional Standard Edition), and Windows Vista Enterprise Edition (previously known as Professional Premium Edition). In all, there are seven product editions planned for Windows Vista (or nine, if you count the N Editions as being different). Note that all of these product names are placeholders for now: They could change before the final product is released. However, this breakdown of editions is current as of this week and is unlikely to change.

I look forward to more battles on what Vista version should be purchased, OEM or Retai... oh I am not looking forward to this one bit

[Dark Nova]

my estimation of price
Windows Vista Starter Edition = 200$
Windows Vista Home Basic Edition = 300$
Windows Vista Home Premium Edition = 400$
Windows Vista Ultimate Edition = 500$

lol

[kosova]

Originally Posted by Dark Nova my estimation of price Windows Vista Starter Edition = 200$ Windows Vista Home Basic Edition = 300$ Windows Vista Home Premium Edition = 400$ Windows Vista Ultimate Edition = 500$ lol

a friend of mine that works in a comp shop says that the new os is just basically XP but with a different file structure (not sure what that really means) and its better as in faster and less crashful so that im looking for..when i buy a vista os like 2010 lol

[Panama Red]

Originally Posted by Statica I look forward to more battles on what Vista version should be purchased, OEM or Retai... oh I am not looking forward to this one bit

That makes two of us! Providing customer support is gonna be fun too. Right now I have machines running with 98se, 2000 Pro, XP Home and XP Pro. That enables me to "see" what most of my customers are describing over the phone. Don't think I'm gonna buy seven versions of Vista tho'.

[David M]

Sheesh....why must they make it so complex? I can see people revolting against it because of the complexity and keeping XP for simplicity's sake. Requiring that people spend time studying which version they want is not going to go over well. That is my first gut reaction.

[rspassey]

Wait, remind me again when it is due to be released?
If their is a reasonably priced professional version that supports the hardware i have and supports SLI and allows dual boot with XP pro 32 bit then I'll get it a month or two after release and creat a dual boot on the PC i have now. My thinking - I already have the 64 bit cpu and paid near 800 dollars for it, might as well take advantage of it. That will also allow me to help a bit in support on this forum for others who might have problems with it and give my imput on how it runs.
I really dont see their intentions unless by the release date, dells and hps and other premaid pcs will be selling 64 bit computers with Vista, like they do now with XP.

[Jaggannath]

Hopefully a good list describing the exact differences between the Vista versions is made, so that we can just link people to it... otherwise its gonna be mucho painful deciding myself, let alone suggesting to others

[Auriga]

Why oh why oh why do the feel the need to do this.

What was wrong with having just a 'home' and 'professional' editions?

Stupid, just stupid.

[doctorgonzo]

Originally Posted by true_ks a friend of mine that works in a comp shop says that the new os is just basically XP but with a different file structure (not sure what that really means)

Actually, the new file system won't be ready when Vista comes out, so Vista will be basically XP with cooler graphics. The new file system (based on SQL database technology) was supposed to be the reason for getting the new version of Windows; without it, there's honestly nothing.

I suspect that M$ is coming up with all these versions to confues customers and hopefully drive up revenues, since there is no good reason to upgrade to Vista from XP.

I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon.

[HAL9000]

I don't think the decision will be that hard..... realistically, the Home Basic Edition will most likely serve your needs. To this day, I swear that people buy things like XP "Pro" simply because of the word "Pro"... they want to sound like they are some professional geek by having this higher end OS that has a bunch of functions that they don't even know how to use. The same will apply with Vista... I think it would be safe to say it's ALL marketing.

[David M]

It reminds me of AOL coming up with a new version every year and a half. The new version is pretty much the same as the old version, the only real noticable differences are the graphics have changed and they moved a thing or two around. AOL might also add something like "Radio AOL" (which you can get on the internet anyway) It's marketed as "ALL NEW!" and vastly improved! Yeah right.

[mairving]

For some reason, it seemed that a Dr. Seuss interpretation of Vista is in order.

Try it, try it Bill will say,
I will not try it, Bill no way.

Will you use Vista on a plane,
No I will not use it on a plane.
Will you use Vista on a train,
No not on a train, Bill, please refrain.

Will you use it for half your pay?
No I will not use it even for a day.
Will you use it because I say?
No, Bill not even because you say.

Try it, try it Bill will say.
I tried it Bill, okay?

I do not like it on a plane.
I do not like it on a train.
I do not like it for half my pay.
I do not like it because you say.
I will use it every day.
Because there is no other way.

[David M]

That is excellent mairving! Did you write that?

[mairving]

Originally Posted by David M That is excellent mairving! Did you write that?

Yep.

[ric449]

As I said in my news post, this could be a step in the right direction. A lot of people complain that they pay for things in Windows that they never use, now you could buy whichever version suits your needs. Maybe one day you could configure your OS online, pay for whatever components you want and download it/get it sent on DVD.

[HAL9000]

Now that would be a nice option as there is a lotta crap that I never use... even in the home edition of XP... although it would probably end up like cable service where you end up getting a deal for buying a 3 pack of options to get what you want, but each of the three packages contains crap you don't want.

[Jaggannath]

Yeah, I know what you mean HAL

[mountainking]

i heard that the average "computer geek" still doesnt even use 1% of the capabilities that the windows xp OS has. In each version they are going to be charging every individual for all the features when realisticly you arent using barely any of it.

[rspassey]

Originally Posted by mairving For some reason, it seemed that a Dr. Seuss interpretation of Vista is in order. Try it, try it Bill will say, I will not try it, Bill no way. Will you use Vista on a plane, No I will not use it on a plane. Will you use Vista on a train, No not on a train, Bill, please refrain. Will you use it for half your pay? No I will not use it even for a day. Will you use it because I say? No, Bill not even because you say. Try it, try it Bill will say. I tried it Bill, okay? I do not like it on a plane. I do not like it on a train. I do not like it for half my pay. I do not like it because you say. I will use it every day. Because there is no other way.

ROFL, LMAO, LOL that is great, you should have seen me rofling lol

[Daggerfall_Addict]

I want vista today with no product activation, no digital rights management, and no trusted computing. :P

And a free Virus and Spyware scanner integrated into the OS..

[ric449]

Everyone wants that, but it isn't happening. MS wouldn't have to do it if people would just stop pirating things.

[HAL9000]

Originally Posted by ric449 Everyone wants that, but it isn't happening. MS wouldn't have to do it if people would just stop pirating things.

General rule of thumb though, those complaining the loudest about product activation, digital rights management, and trusted computing are the same ones pirating said software the most.

[Panama Red]

I get a kick out of the complaints related to MS products, be it Activation or any other security they've added. My employer uses Peachtree accounting software and recently I was asked to look at a couple of problems. When I went to Peachtree's web site for support, I found what their support policy is.

Must have a valid Product Key for installation.
Free support for the first 30 days after installation - unless you bought an upgrade. Then it's one support incident within the first 30 days.
Annual support can be purchased for $299 per year.
Single issue support can be purchased for $50 per incident or $5 per minute.
eSupport runs from $10 to $15 per month. This fee gets you answers by email and access to the knowledge base.

I'm not picking on Peachtree. Just using them as a comparison to the support that's available for free from Microsoft in the form of a massive Knowledge Base. Support costs money. Making a knowledge base available for free costs money. I guess if you want the features of a new os like Vista, you need to open your wallet. If you want a free os, use Linux instead.

[mairving]

It is hard to believe that someone would charge for a knowledge base since the object of a kb is to keep people from calling or emailing, i.e. a DIY thing. Sure making a kb costs money but it saves the company money in the long run.

A Microsoft to Peachtree is not a great comparison because Peachtree is a financial software company. Not only do they get questions about their program but about financials in general. They will get calls if someone's GL doesn't balance or setting up P&L's which can severely bog down a company. I worked at a company that sold a complete business package. About 75% of the calls that came in were about financials even though it was a Point of Sale system and Inventory control system as well.

Definitely agree with Hal on this one as well. The ones that are complaining are generally the ones that use pirated software and other warez.

[Statica]

Originally Posted by Panama Red Making a knowledge base available for free costs money. I guess if you want the features of a new os like Vista, you need to open your wallet. If you want a free os, use Linux instead.

Slight disagreement though, it's not just that an open wallet will give you a well featured OS. Yes that is the case with Vista as well as OSX, but it is also possible to get great features if people openned their minds as well and accepted that they have to relearn most things that they know about computers if they are to use Linux or something of that nature.

It's funny though that the people whining about Vista's/XP's activation, DRM etc are the ones doing most of the pirating, but the majority of them are the ones who are also whining about the Alternative operating systems (like Linux) not being user-friendly, and having such a steep learning curve and not having Clippit help them write a letter in a word processor .. d'uh!

[faulkner132]

Time to move to Linux.

[Daggerfall_Addict]

Originally Posted by faulkner132 Time to move to Linux.

I concur...

[ric449]

I might move to Linux when I can:

Play games
Use my Windows software
Pick it up and use it without having to read manuals
Have something as comprehensive as the Knowledge Base for support rather than relying on forums

As you can see, Linux is hardly the godlike OS everyone says it is. Its easy for everyone to say move to Linux, but the fact is a lot of people don't want to, they like what they get with Windows.

[HAL9000]

I tried Linux... liked it for stability... thing ran forever without a reboot needed... even after updates...... but ya, ease of use... nope... sure, a lotta support forums... I even bought a book with a distro which helped a LOT.... I just don't have the time to learn that much new stuff so I can effectively use it as my desktop OS.

[faulkner132]

I've never used Linux as my desktop either, but what is the best way to learn? Force yourself.

As with most things today, people don't want to change... until they have to...

Computer?... I'll never use one of those things.
Speak another language?... I'll get to it.
Use Linux?... I've never used it before.

and yes, I am guilty of 2/3 of those... for the time being.