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Old 10-04-2005, 08:25 AM   #1
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Yea right next thing they're going to tell us that guns need to be reloaded and tires don't squeal on dirt roads. How dare they impune the integrity of hollywood.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:00 AM   #3
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OK. Anyone here want to test this
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:14 AM   #4
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Here's an article on it.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/quicksand.htm
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:15 AM   #5
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The scientists advised people trapped in quicksand not to panic and to wiggle.

"All you have to do to get your foot out is to introduce water into the sand and if you can do that along your leg by wiggling your leg around, that is the best way to get out," Bonn said.
Okay so which one is it, wiggle or no wiggle. I need to know in case I am ever sinking in Quicksand.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:36 AM   #6
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Mythbusters (episode 19) covered this...
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:47 AM   #7
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Yea right next thing they're going to tell us that guns need to be reloaded and tires don't squeal on dirt roads. How dare they impune the integrity of hollywood.
Don't forget about lead bullets that spark when riccocheting off steel and cars going off cliffs that always explode when they hit the ground.

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Okay so which one is it, wiggle or no wiggle. I need to know in case I am ever sinking in Quicksand.
not to panic and to wiggle. Wiggle your leg, just don't panic!

Mythbusters is pretty funny.

David, you're right about those other common hollywood occurences.
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I am sure that anyone sinking in quick sand will have more than water running down there leg.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:56 PM   #10
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That's a great site. I found this explanation once and have share it at cocktail parties when conversation gets boring:

http://home.howstuffworks.com/question155.htm
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LOL... I have been in something like quick sand and If I remember right you are correct sir.
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:36 PM   #12
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What I am thinking is that your body will displace an equal amount in weight of the quicksand as your body weighs. In other words, if you weigh 100 pounds, the volume of your body will displace 100 pounds of quicksand. This is how boats and ships float. So the greater the density of the quicksand (a slurry of rock and sand like concrete) the higher you will float. If the quicksand consistes more of lighter organic materials and water with a specific gravity of under 1.0...then you are in serious trouble because your entire body will sink under and you will suffocate. Humans are roughly a specific gravity of 1.05 and less..depending on your body fat content. So if your obese, then your a little safer around quicksand...lol

The suction created would relate directly to the viscosity of the quicksand...the more viscous, the longer it would take to remove you with a steady pull. The pull would have to increase as you were pulled further out as well as the quicksand displaced less of your body weight. I hope that makes sense.

I saw something similar to this once with a grad student who was getting samples and got into some really soft mud along a bank in a salt marsh. She got down to her upper thighs in the mud and started to panic. I was on the boat and it was too shallow to get the bow up to her. I was concerned her hip waders would start filling up with mud, much like a sea anchor and it would be impossible to get her out. I said to take the straps off her hipwaders and leave them in the mud.

I told her to lay down in the mud and crawl out. She gave me a dirty look of course but I meant it. I told her to crawl in the mud and let the mud displace her body. She was really muddy when she got back onboard but it worked.

Hypothermia probably would have got to her before suffocation. Water temp was in the lower 50's that day. Laying down probably saved her life.

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I am sure that anyone sinking in quick sand will have more than water running down there leg.
LOL Damn straight...

I was always taught to lay back, it spreads your weight across a wider surface area, and can help you get your legs out easier
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More surface area the more your mass is spread out, so you would float easier.
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