National Championship

[SARGE]

Any bets on the game? My 'horns finally made it and Vince may have to do his "Texas two-step" to keep it close. I believe if both teams play their game and give it their best, it should be a great game. If one time doesn't show up mentally, it's a goner. I believe USC is ripe for picking and Texas has the tools to do that.

[Amazin Caucasian]

USC is definitely beatable, ND should have won, I just don't think Texas is consistent enough and if Vince doesn't have a good game they have no one to fall back on, where USC if leinart isnt playing well fall back on bush or vice versa, my opinion USC.

I'm goin to the Fiesta Bowl, I'm actually leaving tomorow for it, but any picks? I think ND!! Go Irish!! (I'm a huge ND fan, my sis goes there too)

[mbossman2]

USC starts slow...a quick starting team with a good pass defense can shut them down...

[tigstah]

i cant believe i am pulling for a team from texas....considering i am a skins fan.
GO LONGHORNS!!!!!

[Panama Red]

I haven't had the opportunity to see the 'horns in action this year, only highlights. But I did get to see SC and they are scary fast! That back field has three guys that can hurt ya plus some pretty decent receivers. I keep hearing the commentators touting the SC defense but I wasn't that impressed. I can see a 28 - 24 win for SC.

[juppy]

Well, normally I'd have to say I still think USC is the better team, if for nothing more than consistency. If Vince is having a good game though, I think Texas will pull out the win. Being an OU Sooner fan, I can't believe I'm actually pulling for Texas to win, but hey, they're in our Big 12 conference so I guess it's "GO HORNS!" for me in the championship game. It's time somebody knocked USC off their pedestal, and this seems to be the year for upsets (Nebraska over Michigan 32-28, OU over #6 Oregon 17-14), so I'll be on your side for this game, Sarge.

[Amazin Caucasian]

Originally Posted by Panama Red I can see a 28 - 24 win for SC.

no way, the defenses on both sides are nothing special, with two high scoring offenses and avergae defenses equal a high scoring game, but i do agree i think it will be close.

[shady_72002]

I'm still bitter about my Buckeyes losing to 'em, but I'm going for Texas. Everybody loves the underdog.

[Amazin Caucasian]

AH, what a disappointment (Fiesta Bowl). The worst part is, OSU didn't beat us. We beat ourselves. We played terrible, dropped passes, missed tackles, missed covers, stupid penalties...terrible.

[Strider]

I think USC will win for the simple reason that Ohio State should have beat Texas (Although I glad they didn't for that was my only bright moment of the football season being a Universty Of Michigan Fan) and Texas really didn't play anyone of importance after that. However, I would be happy if Texas won, but since my Wolverines stank this year I have no prefrence.

[Litespeed]

Wife went to Texas and I am a Texas fan. She might be a bigger fan than I am, she went to work at 6:00 a.m. just so she would get home in time for the game. I think USC is a power house and I don't think too many teams can bring them down. I am an OU fan, don't tell the wife, and USC took OU down with out any problem. Therefore I don't know what to expect tonight. Bush is a freak, he has an extra gear that no one else has.

But if there is a team to beat USC I think it is Texas. It will have to be the Vince Young show. And lets not forget Texas has one of the top ranked defense in the nation. Only problem with that is there run defense is the only weak link, and you really don't want that problem with Bush. Man I can't wait. Can you imagine how those players' day is going today.

We tried to get tickets, but decided we would like to retire some day. Our freinds went $1100 a ticket. I will watch it in HD with a nice couch and cold beer. A little cheaper than a two plane tickets and two tickets to the Rose bowl.

Go Horns!!!


Thought I would through in this link: http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5218314

[SonicVanguard]

The problem with USC is they use a modified spread offense. Very few defensive alignments can handle what the spread can do - look at Notre Dame, three losses all to teams that use the spread or power spread offense (MSU, USC, OSU). USC makes life very difficult in that they will switch from the spread to the power spread from series to series or even down to down - that makes defending them that much more difficult. Notre Dame learned their lesson against MSU and almost had USC - but USC switched the spread over to the power spread in that last series and ND couldn't adjust in time.

USC has too many weapons for the Horns.

[Amazin Caucasian]

MSU game was bs...no way should ND have lost. This thread will be resolved in a few hours!!

[Panama Red]

Right now it's 16 - 7, Texas in front. USC better learn how to tackle and cover in the secondary or this spanking will continue! Nice D, Horms!!

[SonicVanguard]

Originally Posted by Amazin Caucasian MSU game was bs...no way should ND have lost. This thread will be resolved in a few hours!!

'Scuse me? Granted MSU's D gave up 21 early unanswered points in the 2nd half, but MSU outplayed ND in every way in that game. I saw it first hand.

[SonicVanguard]

Originally Posted by Panama Red Right now it's 16 - 7, Texas in front. USC better learn how to tackle and cover in the secondary or this spanking will continue! Nice D, Horms!!

I've got to admit, I haven't seen Texas play until tonight - very impressive D. But Lienart is a student of the game - if he an hurry up his play calling and keep Texas from masking their D, USC can get back in the game. But USC's D has got to show up in the 2nd half for them to even have a chance. And it certainly helped that the Big10 officials are as blind in this game as they are during Big10 play - Young's knee was down and that lateral was more forward than lateral. And it wasn't even reviewed - big, big miss. And if it comes down to those 6 points, it will be another tarnish on the BSC.

On a side note, is anyone sick of Keith Jackson? He's blown names, facts, anounced wrong downs - he's just terrible. I've never been a Dan Foust fan, but I really feel for Foust having to cover for Jackson's constant miscues.

[weremonkey]

Originally Posted by SonicVanguard I've got to admit, I haven't seen Texas play until tonight - very impressive D. But Lienart is a student of the game - if he an hurry up his play calling and keep Texas from masking their D, USC can get back in the game. But USC's D has got to show up in the 2nd half for them to even have a chance. And it certainly helped that the Big10 officials are as blind in this game as they are during Big10 play - Young's knee was down and that lateral was more forward than lateral. And it wasn't even reviewed - big, big miss. And if it comes down to those 6 points, it will be another tarnish on the BSC.

I'm pulling for the Horns, but, i know how good USC is, so its stilll no closed deal. And the Horns didnt play their best in the first half either, they had some problems, although they were able to overcome them.

Originally Posted by SonicVanguard And it certainly helped that the Big10 officials are as blind in this game as they are during Big10 play - Young's knee was down and that lateral was more forward than lateral. And it wasn't even reviewed - big, big miss. And if it comes down to those 6 points, it will be another tarnish on the BSC.

Knowing both teams, it probably wont, but, if it does, your right.

Originally Posted by SonicVanguard On a side note, is anyone sick of Keith Jackson? He's blown names, facts, anounced wrong downs - he's just terrible. I've never been a Dan Foust fan, but I really feel for Foust having to cover for Jackson's constant miscues.

Thats the one thing that i really havent liked, the commentators.

[Panama Red]

KJ is probably one of the most revered and knowledgeable announcers of college football. Problem is, he's past his prime and has lost his edge. When he called the first Texas extra point "Good!" as the zebras were waving the "no good" sign, it was clear he isn't the Keith Jackson of old. Time to retire I'm afraid.

[lil Jimmie]

Horns #1

[Panama Red]

Sarge, you got your wish! Longhorns win! What a great game. Vince Young is one incredible football player. Congrats Texas fans.

[weremonkey]

Originally Posted by Panama Red Sarge, you got your wish! Longhorns win! What a great game. Vince Young is one incredible football player. Congrats Texas fans.

Ditto. One of the best games ive seen in a while.

[LA22]

What a great game. I am kinda pissed USC lost but Vince Young was amazing. How the heck couldnt USC stop him once. He ran in for TD's untouched from 17 yards out. Its ridiculous, IMO. But it was a good game.
Congratz Texas, and there Fans

[weremonkey]

Originally Posted by LA22 What a great game. I am kinda pissed USC lost but Vince Young was amazing. How the heck couldnt USC stop him once. He ran in for TD's untouched from 17 yards out. Its ridiculous, IMO. But it was a good game. Congratz Texas, and there Fans

well, it was the same reason why the Texas D couldnt really ever stop White... theyre just too good.
After watching this game, my opinions on Bush didnt change- he's not THAT much better than everyone else

[juppy]

As for the officiating, yeah, most of the officiating crews in the bowl games this year have really blown calls. But I don't agree, even though Texas only won by 3 points, that the play where Vince's knee was down was the play that gave them the win. This will be the USC fan's side of it, but they seem to have already forgotten the interception that was ruled an incomplete pass later on in the game. The Texas player had possession, hit the ground, and THEN the ball came out. Losing the ball because of hitting the ground is never supposed to be ruled a drop or a fumble, because the player is already touching the ground (hence, he's down) by the time the ball comes out. After they ruled it an incomplete pass instead of an interception however, USC went on to score a TD on that drive too. So basically I see the two blown calls as offsetting and Texas still winning a legit win.

[blade13432]

HOOK EM HORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Litespeed]

Did Bush play? Is there any doubt on whom the MVP was for the game? He pretty much took the game in his hands in the last 2 minutes. It was nice to shut all the USC hype up.

[jayb1234]

I was glad to see someone knock USC down a notch. Too bad OSU didn't play Penn State and Texas the way the did against Notre Dame. I think they would have beat USC too.

[Litespeed]

Originally Posted by SonicVanguard I've got to admit, I haven't seen Texas play until tonight - very impressive D. But Lienart is a student of the game - if he an hurry up his play calling and keep Texas from masking their D, USC can get back in the game. But USC's D has got to show up in the 2nd half for them to even have a chance. And it certainly helped that the Big10 officials are as blind in this game as they are during Big10 play - Young's knee was down and that lateral was more forward than lateral. And it wasn't even reviewed - big, big miss. And if it comes down to those 6 points, it will be another tarnish on the BSC.

So you honestly don't think Texas would have scored on that drive any ways? They would have been on the 7 yard line. I hope the entire game gave you enough evidence that no matter what that call on that drive Young would have gotten the ball into the end zone by any means. And if you want to talk about laterals how about Bush's crazy lateral?

Tarnished by no means sir!! That was one of the greatest National Championship games in many many years.

[Statica]

I've never been into College football before, but some of the games in this year's Bowls - especially this week - have been A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! It's been a lot of fun watching these photo-finishes.

[SonicVanguard]

Originally Posted by juppy As for the officiating, yeah, most of the officiating crews in the bowl games this year have really blown calls. But I don't agree, even though Texas only won by 3 points, that the play where Vince's knee was down was the play that gave them the win. This will be the USC fan's side of it, but they seem to have already forgotten the interception that was ruled an incomplete pass later on in the game. The Texas player had possession, hit the ground, and THEN the ball came out. Losing the ball because of hitting the ground is never supposed to be ruled a drop or a fumble, because the player is already touching the ground (hence, he's down) by the time the ball comes out. After they ruled it an incomplete pass instead of an interception however, USC went on to score a TD on that drive too. So basically I see the two blown calls as offsetting and Texas still winning a legit win.

Agreed. And ESPN and all the other sports sites have been critical of both calls.