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Old 04-06-2006, 07:26 PM   #31
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Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Hits Boot-Camped Intel Mac

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Old 04-06-2006, 07:29 PM   #32
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Aargh! My eyes! The M$ virus has infected an entirely new species!
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ROFL - It was only a matter of time

*I really should start a collection of BSODs, as I have seen them all over the place (from my house, to school, to arcades, to amusement parks, to MAC!!!).
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Old 04-06-2006, 10:17 PM   #34
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Phew .. if it wasn't that I might have thought it was a hoax.
Anyways it seems like a driver issue with the proprietary iSight camera.
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Old 04-07-2006, 10:51 AM   #35
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I guess I'm just in the minority here, I don't see the appeal of buying a $2000 machine just to run windows when a $500 dell will do the same thing and do it better.
The appeal is to have a machine that can run both Mac and PC software on Apple harware, which is generally pretty good and aesthetically appealing hardware.
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The appeal is to have a machine that can run both Mac and PC software on Apple harware, which is generally pretty good hardware.
I don't know who this guy is, but he does sum it up in a pretty good way: In the old word, PCs ran Windows and Macs ran Mac OS. Now, PCs are computers that only run Windows, while Macs are computers than can run anything. Macs are now much more special.
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Macs are now much more special.
This statement was always true, but no one really listened
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Old 04-07-2006, 10:59 AM   #38
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Mac's have has a distinct advantage now in that it can run both Apple and PC software. PC's on the other hand cannot run Apple software. I can definately see Apple hardware sales increasing. A computers only job is to run software and run it quickly..which is easy to forget and the more software it can run the fewer limitations there are for the user.

The downside for Apple is that they are going to have to compete dollar for dollar against PC hardware which in general is less expensive. So if someone has no need to run Apple software and money is an issue, then it still makes more sense to purchase a PC over a Mac. My guess is that we will see Apple lowering their hardware prices a little in order to be more competitive as a result of this change...unless demand increases dramatically.

I'm curious, what changes would be necessary in order to allow a computer to run two operating systems simultaneously?...this would make the "MacIntel" even more appealing.

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Old 04-07-2006, 11:57 AM   #39
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I'm curious, what changes would be necessary in order to allow a computer to run two operating systems simultaneously?...this would make the "MacIntel" even more appealing.
That's the supposed "holy grail" there. Just run a windows .exe inside of mac os, no dual booting and no emulation software. The Wine project is working on exactly that with Darwine, it's a long way off though. I'm sort of expecting M$ to do it with the next release of Virtual PC, I guess time will tell.
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run 2 os's simultaniously, = 4gb ram and dual core processor = £££ very expensive, but the rewards are certainly tempting.
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Granted it is extra software, but this is pretty darn close to running the two simultaneously. This software released the same day as Bootcamp, but understandably received less press time. Nevertheless, it is interesting.

http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/
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Old 04-07-2006, 01:55 PM   #42
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Was at a computer club meeting Wednesday night where one participant brought his system for "show & tell". Another participant now is actively consolidating resources to purchase one.

It was impressive. Not enough for me to buy one but I can enjoy somebody else's pleasure.
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Old 04-08-2006, 11:12 AM   #43
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I don't know who this guy is, but he does sum it up in a pretty good way: In the old word, PCs ran Windows and Macs ran Mac OS. Now, PCs are computers that only run Windows, while Macs are computers than can run anything. Macs are now much more special.
He pretty much says what I said

"Boot Camp is not about world domination or a direct frontal assault on Microsoft’s Windows monopoly.1 No matter how cool Boot Camp is, it’s not even going to make sense to most people out there, let alone actually get them to buy a Mac. You try explaining “boot loaders” to your mom.

But Boot Camp is inordinately appealing to the higher end of the market, the enthusiasts. Your typical civilian (i.e. non-enthusiast) has no need — or at least sees no need — for dual booting. They use email, they use a web browser, they want something useful to happen when they plug a digital camera into their USB port. Whichever OS comes on their computer is good enough for this.

But there are all sorts of uses for Boot Camp for nerds."

I still say it's a VERY small minority of Geeks that find this appealing... If Apple gain 1% market share from this I would be shocked.
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