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10-09-2001, 03:31 PM
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Reusing Windows 98 CD
Can I use the Windows cd that came with my Hewlett Packard computer with the computer I'm building? I just want to save a little money.
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10-09-2001, 03:57 PM
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legally, no you can't use it unless you were to uninstall it from your hp, physically yes you can.
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10-09-2001, 05:14 PM
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Most likely you can't install it physically either without moving the hard drive of your new build into the HP for installation (which I know you wouldn't do since that would be illegal
 ). Usually the installer checks the BIOS I believe to confirm that it's being installed on an HP computer.
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10-09-2001, 05:19 PM
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I was thinking about it some more. As long as your copy of Win98 isn't installed on both of your PC's at the same you might be in the clear legally. Now I'm not sure if you can transfer your license from an HP to a home built machine, hmmm, just something to think about.
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10-09-2001, 05:42 PM
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yes you can...but no you can't...catch my drift...don't talk about this here, piracy is not tolerated here.
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10-09-2001, 06:07 PM
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As long as you own the rights to that version and it is the only version you are using you should be fine. I mean like I took my hard drive loaded with windows and put it in another machine, It is the only version I'm using I bought it, I have the right to use it.That is not piracy. It is just a simple fact my old machine could not run it anymore so I transferred it to another. The old machine is dead, done, never to un anything anymore. I do not tolerate piracy either but I'm not going to buy another copy just because my computer died.
What I'm saying is that it is your copy on that hard drive and you are allowed to take that drive and re-install it and read it on your new machine, but a copy can not be on two machines at once legally without the proper licences acquired from the vendor or manufacturer. Last edited by highrisemech; 10-09-2001 at 06:29 PM. |
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10-09-2001, 06:11 PM
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LOL, hard to say after I read this article. PICKY PICKY PICKY
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10-09-2001, 09:52 PM
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I've been wondering about something since Win98 came out. I went to Fry's to get a newer version of Win95 (at that time) and it had been taken off shelves and replaced with Win98. Salesman said MS required them to remove the old stuff. Fast forward to today and I have Win98 SE. What if the cd breaks or I lose it. How does one buy an older version of Windows, since ME, 2k and now XP have kicked the oldies into the warehouses?
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10-09-2001, 10:44 PM
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You don't, as you well know, Sarge. M$ is focused on your wallet. They are steadily discontinuing past versions. But you don't have to submit. I think I read in an article by Scott Finney that there are still like 6 million 3.1 and 3.11 users. M$ has (for sometime) forced us into a black market. Well, not you and me, of course, but others.
And you know who you are.
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10-09-2001, 11:35 PM
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No, you physically cannot use an HP restore CD on a generic system. If it's a real Windows OEM CD, you physically can, but legally cannot.
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10-10-2001, 06:07 AM
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GLC why not? If it is your copy and only running on one machine, I wouln't think Microsoft would not have a problem with that. I think they only get pissed when someone tries to sell copies of thier product. I look at it like this, in the old days if I bought a record I could listen to it, play it on any machine but as long as I do not copy it and sell it.
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10-10-2001, 07:49 AM
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An *OEM* copy of a Windows CD (as opposed to a full retail or an upgrade) is only licensed to install on the system it was sold with. I'm not trying to nitpick here, but technically that's the licensing terms.
Remember, you do not own the software. You have purchased a license to use the software as per the licensing terms. Microsoft still technically owns that CD. Spend some time and read the EULA sometime, you probably won't like what you see. OEM Windows is half the price of full retail and is about the same price as the upgrade, and is technically only allowed to be sold "with the purchase of a new system". My distributor interprets this as if I buy a motherboard, processor, or a hard drive, they can sell me an OEM copy of Windows - but it is up to me to comply with the license terms. Other vendors have different policies and this truly is a gray area. Do what you want in the privacy of your own home, but what you do may or may not be "legal" and as always, we must keep it "legal" in these forums. |
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10-10-2001, 10:12 PM
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I stand corrected. Thanks GLC.
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