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08-04-2009, 09:33 PM
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Tweak Monster
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I bought a boat...Ya Me
Yep that is right...
trading in something less desirable for some sea legs...well not so much sea legs but maybe small lakes and rivers... Think more Gilligan on a much smaller level... anyway I got a sweet deal on a 20ft boat and it is really something different for me and I think it is something we all can enjoy...meaning me and my family... It is a 1977 Rinker boat...it has a Mercury 888 inboard engine...meaning a 302cu. in. Ford V8 engine... I got it for 600.00 which is way cheap...I knew that lady that owned it and I did some free work for her a while back and when I questioned the boat she offered it up for sale for 800.00...as soon as I said I was personally interested in it she offered it to me for 600.00 and the deal was 300.00 down and get it out of my yard... the cover has been off all year and I found water in 2 of the cylinders but they werent rusted and the engine turned over freely...I found 3 of the 6 freeze plugs have been pushed out and 2 of those had been replaced before by temp plugs... so I am going to install a rubber plug so i can drain the block in the winter...only needs a little work..new cap and rotor and points...the cap is badly weathered and there is some oxidation inside the housing and the points were rusted... 1st thing to go is the points setup in toon of a Pertronix unit for electronic ignition conversion...just as soon as I can figure if the car version will work...I think it should...I found out today the distributor is a Mallory unit but the cap is the older Autolite style for early vehicle points type so I need to check... either way here is a picture of me and the boat... 
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08-04-2009, 09:38 PM
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Looks like a decent piece, Rat. Now do yourself an immediate favor and pull the wheels off the trailer and check/lube/repalce the bearings BEFORE you take it on the road. Also check the rubber for cracks. If it's been setting as long as you say, good chance the tires will need replacing. Don't know how many boats and trailers I've seen on the side of the road with the wheel(s) roasted off cuz of bearing failure.
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08-04-2009, 09:40 PM
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Nice price, boat look's good and with a little work, you'll be sailing in no time, enjoy!!
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08-04-2009, 10:07 PM
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Tweak Monster
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yea I know PR...
I already found that...The trailer is actually a tilt trailer...and the brakes are hydraulic with little drums and by the time we got home I could hear something not right going one..sounded like the pads came off the shoes...like the bonding let loose... no biggie for me...and the tires...well the tires are shot not something I would pull very far...I pulled the boat 12 miles to its new resting spot and over the winter I will go all the way through the trailer and the wiring on the boat looks iffy in places and as anal as I am about wiring I will probably end up re-doing it all... |
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08-04-2009, 11:11 PM
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I heard that a boat is a hole in the water that you pour money into.
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08-04-2009, 11:30 PM
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Congrats man, boats are a lot of fun. The kids are gonna love it.
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08-05-2009, 05:45 AM
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Ride 'em Cowboy
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If you can walk around inside the boat and not fall throught the floor (dry rot comes to mind) then happy boating
 ps. Might want to get that guy in the pic away from your kids 
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08-05-2009, 06:24 AM
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Tweak Monster
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the floors are very solid...
and fyi...the guy in that pick is what causes kids... kids are looking forward to boating...they arent even sure what it does or where it goes but they are excited about it none the less.... 
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08-05-2009, 06:44 AM
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Ride 'em Cowboy
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Give the kids 2 to 3 more years...They'll want one of their own
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08-05-2009, 07:57 AM
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It doesn't look like you have "buddy bearings" on your trailer wheels. They're a good investment.
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08-05-2009, 11:11 AM
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08-05-2009, 05:06 PM
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Tweak Monster
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yea I gotta go through the trailer and check the brakes...I heard something not right in there like the shoes let loose
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08-06-2009, 11:25 AM
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Max,
That's a great photo with the kids. Congratulations on your new boat! Marinized engines frequently have different internal parts than the same block on a car engine. You may end up needing a different electronic ignition than that found on the same block in a car. Fortunately, you know this stuff better than the vast majority of people. I agree about the Bearing Buddies. They are a necessity, not an option. What they do is create a slight positive pressure from a spring loaded movable grease seal inside the wheel hub which prevents the entry of water when you back the boat down the ramp. Without Bearing Buddies when the warm hub hits the cold water, water can get drawn inside. I skipper and maintain five different types of boats used for research for a university. If you have any questions then I would be happy to try to help you or to lead you to the right boating websites if I cannot answer your question. I am a moderator in one of the websites. For the sake of everyone, please take a boating course. I see have seen and read about so many bad things that have happened out on the water that could easily have been prevented by taking a boating safety course. Its especially sad when these things happen to children. Most people who take a course are surprised at the the amount of information there is to learn, just for the very basics. Many courses are free and many can be done online. The best boating courses have an instructor that you can ask questions of. Google USCG Auxiliary or US Power Squadron or your States website for these courses. Getting up on my soapbox here for everyone reading this.... Most boating accidents involve alcohol. Most boating deaths could have been prevented by wearing a life jacket. ...stepping off. Have fun with the kids and the boat! Nothing beats getting out on the water.
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08-06-2009, 12:05 PM
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sick boat man...how many HP is your motor?
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08-06-2009, 10:10 PM
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Tweak Monster
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I signed up at iboats and have made a couple post but not really getting sme of my questions answered but it is a learning curve at best.... as for the HP I dont know but I am betting it is the 190hp version... |
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08-06-2009, 10:18 PM
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Are there any good lakes in the area?
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08-07-2009, 07:11 AM
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Tweak Monster
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oh man yes...I wont be able to get to then all...but in a 20 mile radius there is almost 20 lakes....and 2 rivers
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08-09-2009, 06:08 PM
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I bless this boat and those she carries! Don't forget the lifejackets!
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08-09-2009, 07:23 PM
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Tweak Monster
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thanks....
2 dozen life jackets are on order just for the boat....so I got that part covered... |
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08-10-2009, 07:45 AM
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Nice boat, During your inspection make sure to check the boot going from outdrive through transom, If the outdrive has been stored in the up position especially during winter it has a tendency to crack / tear. I personally store my outdrive in the lowered position, unless when it's getting hauled to the water.
Another thing I would do is get a set of cups for the outdrive, so you can run the engine out of the water, especially if the freeze plugs have been blown out, you may find a cracked block.
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08-10-2009, 08:25 AM
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08-10-2009, 04:08 PM
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Tweak Monster
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if you look at the picture there are the pink/red prop rod holder to take the excess weight hanging on the trim rods...I was told NOT to store the boat with the trim down this is hard on alot of things...
I was told this by several professionals in the bizz...the rod I have shown them are what they recommend to use ... I also see the boot and it is fine no cracks at all... I was also told by the pros NOT to fire the boat on the muffs..the water pressure will kill the raw water impeller...muffs are for prefill and I should run the boat in a cut barrel filled with water to test the impeller... |
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08-11-2009, 12:30 AM
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I have to call BS on these experts. I have flushed out numerous engines with "mouse ears" for ages without any damage to the raw water impeller. The pressure is just a few pounds at most after the water squirts out the side of the ears.
BTW, buy a new raw water impeller. They are only good for a few years, whether or not they got used. When you pull it out you will see lobes that are permanently bent because they are so old and have not moved for years. If you don't change out the impeller, you risk sending pieces of torn off lobes into the cooling system....not good. Use silicon grease to get the impeller back in...not petroleum grease which causes swelling of the impeller and could swell the rubber O-ring which seals the face of the pump. You may need a special tool called an impeller extractor if the thing is in there really good. It works like a pully puller....but is lots smaller. Yup, time to buy a new O-ring while you are at it! Last edited by David M; 08-11-2009 at 12:37 AM. |
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08-14-2009, 11:09 AM
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Boats R FUN!
congrats on your purchase! boats a re a blast, I have two and a jet ski...my comments ditto that of David M. boaters course, boaters course, boaters course! It's the best favor you'll do for your family and for your fellow boaters! Enjoy!!
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08-15-2009, 10:47 AM
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Every Coast Guard Machinery Technician I have ever worked with, ran the outboards on the muffs. No problems that I saw...
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08-15-2009, 11:46 AM
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Tweak Monster
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to tell the truth I havent really touched the boat as I see alot of things I dont like and I am one of those people who are real anal about having things right...I will NOT rig anything especially where it involves safety...
I kept smelling varnish...like the old fuel kind and when I pulled the engine dipstick I noticed the clean oil smells like varnish...know oil will not smell like varnish on its own I also noticed it is over full by about 6 quarts.... I am thinking the fuel pump has a tear in the diaphram and the gas has gravity fed itself right into the oil... so another thing to check is to pull the fuel pump and operate it by hand and see.... |
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08-16-2009, 02:04 AM
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I'm sure you know, being a car guy, to replace all the vital fluids regardless of what the previous owner says. This way you know with certainty when it is time to change those fluids again. Be sure to change out the lube oil in the outdrive as well. Go by the manufacturers recommendation for that. After you run your outdrive in the water for the first time, check it again for water contamination. Sometimes old seals need to be replaced.
Six quarts over?....yikes! I bet you are right about gas, or possibly water, being down in the oil pan. Last edited by David M; 08-16-2009 at 02:10 AM. |
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