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It's not often that I go to the pcmech homepage but having just installed WinXP on my wife's PC, I went there first to get to these forums and saw the 'Windows XP: Play by Play' article at http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/324/1/ ... which of course I read with interest having just installed the OS for the 2nd time on the same system in the last week. In case you're wondering why I reinstalled it, on my first attempt, there was problems with the scanner and digital camera and a few other things that I wanted setup a bit differently [it was worth it]. BTW, I was able to keep all data and favorites from before by installing on another HDD and copying the old files over. I regress ...
The article more or less tells it like it is. One point not mentioned is that the NetBEUI protocol is no longer used and as a result, other Win9x PC's on the LAN would have to be reconfigured. It's understandable that this or some of the other details are not mentioned as it may make the article too lenghty for some [others].
After that article, it whisked me back to
Operating Systems ... and that's where I saw the article by Dok titled Red Hat Linux 5.2 Installation. What a coincidence, just today, as I was picking up a few groceries, I came across a big book 'The Complete Reference Red Hat Linux' by Richard Petersen and it included the ver. 5.2 CD which is now a part of my collection.
Anyways, I encourage you to take a look at the homepage once in a while if you haven't .... and it's on to another OS install.

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NetBEUI is still on the XP cd somewhere and available to be installed.

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Thanks, I'll check back into that one. Back to the thinking pad ... In the past, I have been using TCP/IP for the Internet and NetBEUI for my LAN and kind of liked having the two separated. Would you advise to use that setup still or just keep everything TCP/IP?
In regards to the XP install ... at first, I had no idea how well the old software would adapt but it turned out much better than expected except for the shareware games by Wingames which loaded much too slow ... it even took the good ol' Quicken ver 2.0

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I still prefer NetBEUI on small lans as long as it performs well enough for you because it's nonroutable and secure by definition. There is also no configuration required. If you have more than 10 or so machines on the lan, performance will suffer because of all the broadcasting going on, but below that it shouldn't be an issue.

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Thanks again G. There's only 4 PCs on this LAN and I'm in the process of making new ghost images for 2 of them. Things were OK with it before so I think NetBEUI will be added again then.

Edit>Couldn't find NetBEUI and started a new thread here in the Windows 2000/NT/XP forum.

[Hpro]

Archie - I for one using NetBEUI - I also looked on the WinXP Cdrom - still can't find it even I know it must be there - but don't worry - what you can do is making a separate TCP/IP address for the lan - and one for Internet - the one of lan assing a IP address - whatever you like - it does a good job and will not interfere with the dial up - it's alot faster than using NetBEUI but it's more harder to configure - as WinXP is also harder to configure than Win2k .. Now how ever it be I will look still for it an if I find it you will know where by then ... most I can do ..

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HOW TO: Install NetBEUI on Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q301/0/41.ASP

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Thanks guys ... now I'm pondering whether to use NetBEUI for the LAN and TCP/IP for the Internet, try Hpro's suggestion, or just use TCP/IP for all. I do have a Linksys 4 port router in my setup if that makes any difference, there are 4 PCs on this LAN as mentioned previously, and a more difficult setup would not be a deterrent is choosing one solution over another.

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DEFINITELY, TCP/IP for internet, and NETBEUI for LAN (separated in networking properties, bindings).
It's faster, far more secure, easier to set up and share (especially with the built in XP security, making it MOST difficult to share files/folders).

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NetBEUI did show up once the two files from the CD were copied onto the HD. Was wondering: I'm not able to see the properties of File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks with either NetBEUI installed or without. Is it supposed to be like that? BTW, when NetBEUI is installed, its properties box is also greyed out so it can not be seen either.

[Should this thread be moved to Windows 2000/NT/XP?]

[Hpro]

You have to copy the *.sys file to C:\Windows this if your system root is \windows for WinXP or to \Winnt if this is Win2K - the *.inf goes into the \Winnt\inf or \windows\inf respectively - then you have to enable sharing for all files or folders you like to have to be seen by the other computer - I have a dual configuration here WinXP - Win2K and it works OK - after that GLC had posted the Link to MSsoft I did as I read there and it works OK.. this will account for Both OS WinXP as well as Win2k - you will need the drivers of WinXp that it will work under Win2k - just overwrite the Win2k ones if there is need of - I did this today and it works - yes the propertie box is greyed out because there is no need to set anything..

I do not have a HUB - I use just two computers here for testing etc - so it's like a direct cable connection over the NIC's ...
First pic of Win2k



Second of WinXP


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