Can't Copy Anything Ever Again

[joplinsdrink]

Lots of talk about the entertainment industry planning to stop the ability to copy anything.

Music, CD, Video, CD backups, anything and everything.
Even PayPerView movies.

Will you stand for it. This is not wishful thinking on their part, They are working towards having full control.

The story in in PCWorld.

[highrisemech]

Actually it is an old story. The entertainment industry has been trying to put a stop to this for years. They are losing a tremendous amount of money because of duplication. So far thier efforts have been fruitless.

[KronoLeginaire]

No matter how they try it you can ALWAYS copy music. I know how, its a simple a taking the output from your sterio to your computer and recording it. TaDA~!

[RJ]

No copy protection has been successful so far.
A CD for example: No matter what they put on it: Laserlock, bad sectors etc., if you have a burner that is capable of RAW-read and RAW-burn, and a software like CloneCD or WinOnCD, it's done.

They say that DVD's are copy protected ? Nope, they're not. What's easier than just read the vob's out of it, take my own authoring program and burn it to another DVD ? It's simple.

Actually everyone has the right to make a backup-copy of it's original. Since copying a CD and DVD is so easy it will take quite a while till a real copy protection comes out, but I doubt this will be possible, at least with current media.
So don't worry, you will still be able to make backups.

RJ

[joplinsdrink]

Hope you all are right. Hope we don't get blind sided.
The industry seem to be rather confident they will be able to control the coping with new technology they are coming up with.
They are putting a lot into it.

[morriswindgate]

What the entertainment industry has not learned to date:

1. Copy protection schemes just give verybored hackers something to do. And many of these hackers are the same people writing the copy protection software.

2. Foolproof copy protection like that seen with the Divix Players from a few years back will fail to attract consumers.

3. When you charge as much as $1.00 per song in order to download it to your own computer, you are not competing with the pirates, you are creating more of them.

[Xayd]

Cost vs. time

A music CD isn't worth 16 dollars. If it were 7 dollars, people would buy them rather than download, since it's easier.

A DVD is 15 dollars and a pain to rip, hence people buy them rather than download movies for the most part.

When the music industry lowers its prices it'll gain back customers, but as long as its sole purpose is to maintain price gouging and try to fight piracy technically, it'll lose.

[Gintaras]

Xayd,
From all CDs I had, maybe 3 or 4 I bought were brand new. I always buy used ones- no difference from brand new one. I always look at surface for condition of CD. I see no reason to pay $15-18 when you can get very same CD for $7-9.

I've worked for the record label for 2 years, most costs are involved in advertising/promotion. Independent label record Co.'s pay nothing or very little to artists.

[padawan]

Yes, it drives me crazy because we all know CD's are very cheap to produce, cheaper than a cassette, yet the record companies insist on charging upwards of $20 for a CD. At least with a DVD you get a lot more than the cheaper VHS tape. I love all the cut scenes and addiotional material on DVD's, and I buy a lot of them.

[Genuine_Mind]

I agree it will be hard to stop. I have a few computers all with windows Xp 4 to be exact. I could go to the shop and buy 4 copies of windows xp or I could use the one cd and use it on all computers. That is breaking the copyright laws, but I cant see why you would spend 1300+ for 4 copies of Win XP (Australain Dollars).

[morriswindgate]

If I remember correctly, the total cost to the record company for a cd is around $1.95 while a cassette tape cost is around $3.50. ( this cost includes recording, pressing, packaging, advertising, distribution, and royalties) Artist Royalties on a CD are very low because when the CD was first introduced the companies negotiated a deal for lower amounts to get the technology off the ground)
As you can see the whole CD thing is a rip-off.
Additionally, it started with contry music, is that the recording companies are now manufacturing artists instead of discovering them. As such most of them sound alike and are more actors than musicians. The result of this is that most of the labels have lost hugh amounts of money over the last year. I always remember a quote from Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, guitar player for Steely Dan. " The album "Frampton Comes Alive showed a bunch of guys in suits that listen to classical music, that they could make money with rock and roll."

[freptide]

When you buy cds these days you get one or two good songs if youre lucky.
The rest of the songs tend to be empty instrumental space,sort of like a bad
Pink Floyd song that goes on for 10 minutes. I think mp3s will make them rethink this way of doing things and help to improve song quality. You hear that one song from the album on the radio and think the rest of the cd will be as good. Most of the time you lose and their deceptive marketing practices have won again.