Marijuana poll

[satan]

Just a poll to see percentages on the issue.

[Orcmonkey]

No.

[freptide]

nada

[Kubie]

No Way!!
Carl

[Scotty]

It is obvious that the post made tell the story! Why don't we take a poll on if satan or God is real or not??? It is a age old poll taken in our lives every day, to do good or do evil. There is no middle. We have to make these decisions every day with or without inspirations from whatever sources we let control us!! Lets just make pot legal then we can have more taxes taken from us to take care of more people that will use it as an excuse and not face reality when they smoke laced pot and kill another kid just like the drunks do!! We pay for their lawyers because they are a victim of society and really don't have a life in the first place and turn to mind altering drugs, alcohol or other drugs of choice!! It is a disease!! Do we really need more problems.........

[M. A. Dockter]

Yes. Let's get the idiots out of the gene pool

[audiyoda]

Originally posted by M. A. Dockter Yes. Let's get the idiots out of the gene pool

How about we get the idiots out of the General Discussion forum? Since when has the G.D. forum been used for all these wayyyy off topic polls and threads? I thought that's what forumclick.com was for? Didn't we have similar issues six or eight months ago and that was the concensus?

I come to PC Mech to deal with PC realted isues in whatever form tehy may be throw out -- problems, jokes, this and that. The occasional off topic thread is fine, but damn, the G.D. forum has gone from techie to crappie.

My $.02

-Craig

[Scotty]

Ditto's But you know what they say about free speech "the price is right but the stuff ain't no good" I personally really like the techy side myself... My .03 worth!!

[Kubie]

General Discussion has been one of my favorite forums until lately. After reading some of the posts, its almost like dope is being pushed on me.
My $.02
Carl

[HAL9000]

It really doesn't concern me as I have never done drugs other than those perscribed by my doctor, but as I stated in the other thread, after working in a bar for four years, I would rather be in a bar with people smoking clean, unlaced pot instead of drinking.

[Hpro]

What that here ? You started a thread with the marijhuana issue - so now you start another one almost the same as this isn't one enough to get to know what you like to know?

So I got to get something out of my heart here - Sorry if I offend anyone here but it has to be said -
Your other thread got you 78 I think respectfull and honest answers - and over 800 people have read them - so if you think you are going to do DOPE then just do it - if not then NOT - but I think it's inappropriate to place another thread on this subject - even you declare it as a poll - it's a waste of space and time... Don't you agree ???
I think there are more than enough samples and answers in the first thread to have you know what people are thinking - placing you at the end - as the majority is against DOPE - no need to extend that over all the boards..
Sorry again but it just don't fit no more...

[NickLuto]

If marajuana was legal, the government couldnt confiscate it from citizens and sell it to other countries! Duuuh!

[satan]

Originally posted by Hpro What that here ? You started a thread with the marijhuana issue - so now you start another one almost the same as this isn't one enough to get to know what you like to know?

Sorry, i just wanted to see the results of a poll. I wanted to start my first thread with a poll but i forgot.

[Hpro]

Over 80 well explained messages are much more worth than a poll - most polls do not bring up that much anyway...count them..
Do you get my point?

[Gintaras]

Why should I if someone doesn't want to?

Go ahead

on Rx drugs,
I once had Rx drugs(painkillers) Rx'd for me that I didn't take- took Advil instead, after I learned what those Rx drugs would do.

I was laughing off when there was Anthrax fever and people rushed to get expensive antibiotics( Cipro, if I remember right). I have a friend who works for the Pfizer, he called me and we both had a good laugh over. Cheapest penicillin can cure anthrax.

[bob]

If you are in school and do not smoke it you will be competing with those that smoke. It would then be easiar to get good grades.

Once you compete for jobs the same goes - don't smoke and you will surely be first to get the job.

I grew out of smoking it at an eairly age and would hope others would too.

Well, gotta go I need a beer.

[Gintaras]

[Scotty]

The End?

[Gintaras]

Originally posted by Scotty The End?

Prolly "joints" are rolled up.

Wait for awhile, if you can

[Confused]

No, I've been around and dealt with recovery and people in recovery long enough to know that it is a gateway drug. Does it lead to harsher substances for everyone, no. But I've dealt with enough young men and women who started with marijuana and are now crawling out of a hell of their own making to know the penalties for those that sell it should be stiffer.
Chas

[Carl Price]

I really don't think there is such a thing as a gateway drug. I have knowm many folks who would not do anything but pot, but I have also known pillheads that have never touched pot. They went straight to the drug of choice with no stops in between. I have knowm more than a handful of those too!

[HAL9000]

Yea, I agree. I actually know somebody that used to do a lot of pot and when it came down to it, at a party when needles starting coming out, she had it in her hand, ready to inject, and at that point gave up drugs completely. She walked out and never went back.

I offer one suggestion though to those that want to do pot, grow your own so you know it's not laced with something. This is when pot becomes a gateway drug. When it's laced with something, you get a craving for something that the pot isn't giving you. This is what may lead a person to seek stronger alternatives.

[Reedimus]

resisted urge to comment on first pot thread, feeling the urge to comment now that there is another.

I can understand why so many people choose not to smoke, but what baffles me is why they feel like their opinion is so right that it must be forced upon others. personally, I think drugs are a waste of time and money, but I recognize that I have no authority to tell my neighbor joe blow what to do in his own home. and why should I care so long as joe blow isn't hurting anyone?

[whr2206]

well since most people say no, I will tell you why, it would be good to make it legal. (1) this war on drugs thing cannot be won, so lets save some money, and lives here (2) making it legal, will get rid of all those dealers (3) it wont be as dangerous, because since its controlled, and common, it wont be as laced as much as it is now (4) us could make some cash out of it by taxing the hel* out of it (5) overall I think it would help the economy.

i know people are going to disagree with me, jsut stating the positive aspects.

[Gabe]

Okay, I've watched this debate go on for a while now. It's amazing how many people believe that "pot" should be legal. Whr2206 was saying how it would save money if it was made legal, but has anyone ever given thought to just making it decriminalized? Simply put, there would not be that big long court process or anything, it would be like getting a speeding/parking ticket. Simply go pay. Mind you, after so many fines/tickets, maybe you could have a bigger fine or what not.

As for the "pot" becoming safer. I think that is also far from the truth. Just think about it. Say it is legal, a lot of people will start growing their own. That in it's self might not be so bad, but what if this newbie decides he wants to try to cut/lace it with something, but the dumb bastard does it with bleach. Some people would do it, we don't know why, they don't know why, but they do it anyway.

anyway, sorry for my ranting.

[satan]

Originally posted by Gabe but what if this newbie decides he wants to try to cut/lace it with something, but the dumb bastard does it with bleach.

or when some kid tries to get high off household cleaners, or tries the old cough syrup trick and accidently takes the wrong kind. Stuff like that happens, it's their life, their chooses. Still, the person that would lace it with bleach would still do something else like that no matter if marijuana was legal or not.

[Hollow4]

lets put it this way, if you smoke pot then you are smoking yourself stupid. Clinical proven to reduce brain activity. Point made that you become a moron if you smoke to much, now if you legalize it, the morons dont realize that the government will increase the price of pot and then the government gets more money. However you create a class of people who are so unmovitvated that they eat cheese puffs and watch porn all day. If this were to happen it could cause the global economy to crash(not really), but it could happen. Now i have "been told" that being high is fun, but it just costs so damn much money that it makes it unrealistic for a lot of americans who live on shoe string budgets. Whether they legalize it or not, which they never will, it doesnt really matter because people are gonna smoke no matter what. Do i think it is bad, NO. Do i think it should be legal, who cares, smoking a joint or "bowl" is equivalent to smoking something like 6 cigarrets. ewwwwww, thats so bad. i think pot no less worse then cigarrets, yet they are legal. One question though, why are cigarrets and tobacco and alcohol legal and not pot?? i can understand some drugs made in labs but god, if you believe in god, or evolution, if you believe in darwin, or its just there, if your a pot head or stupid, intended it to be there for some reason. if it grows then whats the big deal.
my thoughts, a rambling narative by
-Ryan-

[KR0316]

I thought PC Mech forums were computer related. I guess I thought wrong.

[Paul Victorey]

I'll go against the flow and say, yes, legalize it.

Not because I smoke pot, nor do I want to. However, simply because it is not a wise choice doesn't mean it should necessarily be outlawed. Eating ten cheeseburgers a day is a bad health choice, and I wouldn't do it, but I don't care if others do. Smoking is a bad health choice, as is drinking, and I don't do either, but I don't see the need to stop others. I do appreciate that workplaces are smoke-free, as secondhand smoke is terribly bothersome, but beyond that, I could care less who smokes and who doesn't.

Personally, I'd favor making alcohol illegal before making pot illegal. Having known many pot smokers (it's hard not to know some, in college), even when stoned out of their mind, they're not violent, or a danger to themselves or others. The same is not always true of those drunk out of their mind; I've known drunks to get mean and bloodthirsty, I've known stoners to just get hungry. If anything, they're less aggressive.

Legalizing would also help eliminate laced pot, to the extent it can be eliminated. Not a whole lot of people spike a beer, or lace a cigarette or cigar, and those who do, usually don't sell them to others. So using that as an argument against isn't very convincing.

And I believe that people have a right to live their lives as they choose. If they choose to flush their lives down the toilet, as many people seem to, then although I disagree with their choice, it WAS their choice, and I support their right to choose how to live their life.

Of course, I also think that people who cannot hold jobs solely because of drug abuse, etc. shouldn't get a dime taken from my paychecks. If people make themselves unemployable by choosing to be a wino or druggie, until they get clean, and, in doing so, demonstrate they're willing to help themselves, I don't think society as a whole has any obligation to help them.

As a general rule, I only believe in prohibiting drugs whereby a) the person could suffer permanent harm, making them a burden on society (like LSD, which can cause permanent insanity), or b) drugs which, while under the influence, make the user a danger to others. All the rest, I feel if people aren't harming society, and aren't harming other people, then they're only hurting themselves, and I don't think the government should intervene.

And to those who say that drug abuse harms society simply by removing productive people -- the kind of people who flush their lives away on drugs, alcohol, etc. (the people who really do it to excess, not just occasionally) wouldn't have been productive anyway; they would have only found another self-destructive behavior.

So again, I would support its legalization, because I feel that people have the right to choose how to live, even if they make really stupid choices.

[Carl Price]

Paul, I applaude you. That was one of the best reasoned arguments, I have heard. I agree completely!