You gotta love Internet Explorers Security

[mairving]

This is sad. It also only works in IE. Do the files look familar?
http://barstow.ra-systems.com/hacked.jpg

[highrisemech]

I saw this once before no one else can see it though it is just a mirror effect.

[archie]

That's a very organized root ... I like that.

[Orcmonkey]

Thats great! I was puzzled for a while... I use that on someone else

[Toaster]

Howdy,
I hope that scares folks, it should!
You might try www.mozilla.org
Here is a secure browser for almost any OS you could think of.

[Statica]

Heheh my favourite topic. Unfortunately, taht little tidbit doesnt qualify as a vulnerability .. its just a freak of the IE nature Much like people used to create a wideopen effect whenever someone coded a META HTTP-EQUIV REFRESH of the autoexec.bat etc

However, these are really fun
http://www.guninski.com/browsers.html
Feel free to go with it and check out the demos at your own risk and sense of security. I am convinced that IE users* by far are more into how pretty it looks, and consistent interface with their OS, than have the patience to understand whether it constitutes as a risk. In fact if more people realized the risk they kept taking, perhaps more than 80% of the virii over the last few years couldve been avoided.
With any IE user, I have this to suggest, harden your browser .. disable active scripting (JS & VBS) on your browser; and then try using IE, you would be inclined to give Mozilla and the like an honest shot .. why because more often than not users have found the "secure" IE rather plain.
And it gets worse, everytime a proponent of the famed IE/OE juggernaut concedes abt all browsers being the same bad old story, a new program inherently tied up to the internet pops up, that gives people renewed impetus to argue in favor of it. For example, look at the road the Windows Media Player has taken .. now thanx to WMP's new features; we now have vulnerabilities attached to ur WMP.

Dont get me wrong, am impressed with the scope of imagination that M$ has demonstrated .. they have searched far and wide, and for the most part have succeeded in copying the best features of other OS', but in the yanking of design ideas, they decided to make it pretty not safe.


IE users=Users of IE and OE

[highrisemech]

The internet is going to be a no mans land for some time to come.
Even the US government is grappling with this problem.
There is no magic pill. Actually the only effective tool are the laws against
hacking and virus transmission. Antivirus software is more of a bandaid
although it can be quite an effective bandaid, as are firewalls.
But god knows how many walls have come down over the years.

[Gintaras]

Browse here:

[highrisemech]

Nice trick but all this does is again is mirror the browser.
Basically it is the users computer looking at itself.

[Paul Victorey]

Originally posted by Statica Heheh my favourite topic. Unfortunately, taht little tidbit doesnt qualify as a vulnerability .. its just a freak of the IE nature Much like people used to create a wideopen effect whenever someone coded a META HTTP-EQUIV REFRESH of the autoexec.bat etc However, these are really fun http://www.guninski.com/browsers.html Feel free to go with it and check out the demos at your own risk and sense of security. I am convinced that IE users* by far are more into how pretty it looks, and consistent interface with their OS, than have the patience to understand whether it constitutes as a risk. In fact if more people realized the risk they kept taking, perhaps more than 80% of the virii over the last few years couldve been avoided. With any IE user, I have this to suggest, harden your browser .. disable active scripting (JS & VBS) on your browser; and then try using IE, you would be inclined to give Mozilla and the like an honest shot .. why because more often than not users have found the "secure" IE rather plain. And it gets worse, everytime a proponent of the famed IE/OE juggernaut concedes abt all browsers being the same bad old story, a new program inherently tied up to the internet pops up, that gives people renewed impetus to argue in favor of it. For example, look at the road the Windows Media Player has taken .. now thanx to WMP's new features; we now have vulnerabilities attached to ur WMP. Dont get me wrong, am impressed with the scope of imagination that M$ has demonstrated .. they have searched far and wide, and for the most part have succeeded in copying the best features of other OS', but in the yanking of design ideas, they decided to make it pretty not safe. IE users=Users of IE and OE

Well, I don't use OE, but after Mozilla (granted, not the newest version) went down more often than interns during the Clinton years, and because some sites I prefer are pretty much IE-specific sites, and not likely to change, I treat IE as the lesser of the evils.

I have a reasonably good functionality and security balance. I keep "internet zone" highly restricted, but add sites that I like, and which I want to be allowed to use some more advanced features, to the "trusted sites" list, which is set to what would otherwise be the default internet security for IE.

As to windows media player, realplayer, etc. trying to access the internet -- Zonealarm stops them in their tracks, so I don't mind that. Further, you can disable all the internet features of WMP, so it'll never even try.

[audiyoda]

I see no trick -- Opps....I use Netcape 6.2

I like my security and a fun, un-plain browser.

-Craig

[highrisemech]

Now that was funny.

[archie]

So Netscape version 6.2 is OK compared to 6.0? I've only tried to version 4.7? ... I may give this one a try.
As for mozilla, trying it now for the first time ... it seems to be awfully slow in comparison to MSIE 6.0 ... anyone else notice that? Another peculiarity when it's launched is Zone Alarm prompts: 'Do you want to allow MOZILLA.EXE to act as a server?'.

[SARGE]

Archie, got NS 6.2 last night and ZA asks same question about server. I said "NO". Not sure what server means in browser world.

[mairving]

I prefer Opera 6 over NS 6 any day even with some of the ads.

[audiyoda]

Originally posted by SARGE Archie, got NS 6.2 last night and ZA asks same question about server. I said "NO". Not sure what server means in browser world.

Sarge, Netscape 6+ likes to act as a server for whatever reason. Lot's of programs do it seems. I finally got sick of it and said yes -- nothing bad has happened that I can see.

-Craig

[Toaster]

Hello folks,
Archie, I don't see any slowdowns with Mozilla what so ever.
Iv'e grown to love Mozilla as it is ported to virtually any platform under virtually any CPU.
Its speed under any Micky$oft O/S was so good IMHO that systems I service get Mozilla as a "safe" browser and ALL of my clients are quite pleased.
Each ceased to have "Virii activity" associated with IE.
Mozilla is now a "gotta have" for me as I run all types of gear under almost any imaginable processor. The "64bit" varaints of Mozilla are wonderfully fast.
If Mozilla has a problem that I see on occaision, its with Ebay and this site.
I tend to think the above mentioned sites are "IE assumed".
With the added security that Mozilla offers, there can be some woes.
Each of these woes are security related as when the browser detects a security failure, the browser may act "buggy" when in fact, to better afford security, the browser simply will error at the site that offers a security risk.
As I said, under any platform, under any O/S that Mozilla supports, this site and Ebay are the only "trouble makers". Other users may have additional issues that I'm unaware of. So....Mozilla or bust with me. Built by folks who understand "freedom" in software design and the theory behind "freedom".

www.mozilla.org