Stupid Parents..............

[Quadron_Computers]

Listen carefully get a job at your local computer or electronic store so you make money and get discounts on the parts you need

[Confused]

I don't see a lot of enhancement to the gene pool here.
Chas

[Reedimus]

I wonder what is more difficult: understanding your parents perspective as a child or understanding your child's perspective as a parent. maybe it wouldn't be so difficult to get along if we focused on understanding the other's perspective rather than trying to get the other to understand our own. not trying to judge anyone here, I believe if you've managed to coexist with a parent or a child at all without killing them you've had at least some measure of success.

[ylen13]

don't pay the $25.If you can build a computer then your dad should have been smart enough to wait for to see if u can figure out the problem before speending the money on the tech guy.

[SARGE]

Geez, the whole world is full of idiots.

[Jason Padgett]

Originally posted by Jenni Reason with your parents. Maybe you can talk them into funding your new build. Call it a learning opportunity.

Probably wouldn't hurt to remind them that you'll probably be supporting THEM one day in their old age. By funding your build, the'll be investing in their future as you'll make a lot more money than the guy digging ditches. (Unless the guy digging ditches is union - in which case he's got you beat)

[The_Judas]

Judging from most opinions i can guess that all pcmech members are parents
(or teachers) or just hate children!

I really don't get it,you just want to punish that kid real hard just for making a little mistake.Most of you had surely made bigger mistakes and gotten away with it in the past.
Hypocrisy is the only thing i can't stand.

Looks like parents never make mistakes!

[doctorgonzo]

I think people are being a bit hard on him for saying his parents are "stupid and ignorant." I think we have all thought that about our parents when we were teens. It's just part of growing up. Nor is it entirely his fault: it is usually the parents. My wife has been working as a nanny for a couple of years, taking care of suburban people's kids, and the parents tick me off to no end and make me want to institute parenting licenses. They cave in to their kids all the time, buy them whatever they want, shut them up by sticking them in front of the TV at home or even in the car for the luv of Jupiter, and generally make it all too clear that the important things in life are material objects and being entertained 24/7. One family spent more money a week on toys than paying my wife: an interesting take on priorities, spending more on plastic crap than the person who is responsible for the lives of your children more than 40 hours a week. And then the parents wonder why their kids grow up to be spoiled rotten holy terrors.

Audiyoda has it right: this is the reason for birth control. However, I think the birth control needs to be applied to these idiot parents who are wrecking the future with their moronic parenting.

[Jenni]

I'm a parent, my husband's a teacher, and there are times when I kids drive me crazy, especially my own!

I think what's got everyone so POed at BrettRandell is the fact that he called his parents "stupid" and "a freaking moron". And I agree, that is highly disrespectful. But, I did the same thing when I was his age. I think most teenagers think they know it all and the whole world should revolve around them. Now that I'm older and have kids of my own, I know how tough it must have been for my mom to put up with me. I love both of my parents. Even though it's been almost a year since my dad died, I still miss him very much and find myself crying at least 5 times a week. My mom, who I once told that I "hope you get run over by a truck" is my best friend. I'd do almost anything for her.

So, BrettRandell, I say this to you: what if the last thing you ever said to your dad was that he was "a freaking moron"? My dad was 46 when he had a heart attack and died. Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone. Appreciate what you have, you never know when it might be gone.

[Jason Padgett]

Originally posted by The_Judas I really don't get it,you just want to punish that kid real hard just for making a little mistake. Hypocrisy is the only thing i can't stand.

No one here is being hyprocritical. And no one here wants to see Brett punished real hard for making a little mistake. I don't think his father did either. He only asked him to reimburse him the $25. What's missing here is how we went from a simple and appropriate punishment of $25 to taking away Brett's computer money. It's something that Brett has failed to elaborate on:

Originally posted by A Kid w/ Serious Attitude It starts like this. -SNIP- Today when i get home from my friends, my dad tells me i owe him 25 dollars cuz hes a freaking idiot. -SNIP- WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THERE AND HERE?? Now they started saying all this stupid stuff so it ends up that I can't buy and build the computer i wanted to make!

I would surmise that Brett displayed the same attitude with his parents that he did in this forum upon being asked to pay $25...in which case I think he's lucky he got off so easy. That's how his Dad went from asking to be reimbursed $25 to taking away all of his computer money. The only person Brett has to blame is himself...if he hadn't acted like the child he obviously is (maturity level) then he'd probably be installing his mobo today.

IMHO...maybe it didn't happen that way. I guess Brett will have to enlighten us...Brett?

[Mr N8]

I'm not a parent or a teacher. I'm a 22 year old who has gotten very far in life already by being respectful and taking resposiblity for my own actions. Don't expect the your dad will know everything about what YOU did to his computer. Admit that you put the dye there, apologize for your immature rantings, and pay up the $25. It would take you what, 5 hours at McDonalds to make that back? You may not think you need to grow up yet, which you don't, but a little respect and maturity goes a long way.

Nate

[HAL9000]

Originally posted by The_Judas Judging from most opinions i can guess that all pcmech members are parents (or teachers) or just hate children!

Yea, I'm a parent, but at 33, it was so long ago that I have forgotten what it is like to be a teen. I also know a lot of teens that come to me as a friend and I see them make the same mistakes that I did. You can't stop a teen from making a mistake, but you can advise them how to handle the mistake afterwards, this is where they are willing to listen.

My daughter is only 7, yet she insists that she knows better, so she makes her mistakes, but she also knows how to pay for them in a manner that is acceptable to me without me having to lay things down too hard on her.

[Nuclear Krusader]

Most of you had surely made bigger mistakes and gotten away with it in the past.

Sure thing! I've made a lot of mistakes and I paid dearly for them, man I'm still paying some of them and it seems that I'm gonna be suffering a little bit more before the due is paid.

What is important here is that you take responsibility for those mistakes you make, rather than redirecting the blame to the nearest person.

I'm not a parent yet, but my parents are teachers, my uncles and aunts are teachers and even my ex-gf is a teacher. So I learnt right from the start the importance of being responsible for my actions, right or wrong. And I learnt the meaning of education and that polite people get farther in life than those who are disrespectful. Sure, Brett is upset, and whe one is upset is pretty easy to think that everyone is against us and it's easy to say things that we regret later. I know that it's not always easy to get along with your parents (my Dad and me are always disagreeing, but we treat each other with respect), but hurling insults at them is not the way things should go.

I don't hate youngsters, it's not the person that annoys me, but the attitude.

My 2 cents.

[whr2206]

Originally posted by Reedimus I wonder what is more difficult: understanding your parents perspective as a child or understanding your child's perspective as a parent. maybe it wouldn't be so difficult to get along if we focused on understanding the other's perspective rather than trying to get the other to understand our own. not trying to judge anyone here, I believe if you've managed to coexist with a parent or a child at all without killing them you've had at least some measure of success.

I beleive its both... I used to not appreciate what my parents did for me, but now i do. They pay th ebills, do some of the cleaning(i do the other half) cook me dinner and I still bitc* to them. But being teenager isnt the easiest thnig either. I still have to go to school,clean, and do work...

[Colonel Sanders]

I'd have to say that the *Dad* was quite ignorant and shouldn't have called tech support. Son is planning to build PC, son probbably knows solution to problem, too impatient, calls tech support makes a $25 bill because he is to impatient. He is embarrased because he wasted $25 for being impatient and thus demands he gets reimbursed his measley $25(which however in a teens mind is more than $25). Dad thinks kid messed up once, kid will mess up again, take $600 from him and put it into a college fund, problem solved: Kid punished, kid not going to waste money, no money lost, no embarrasment suffered.

Dad should have waited or at least not run up a $25 tech support bill. If he had attempted to trouble shoot the problem("hmm, bottle says hair-dye, should that be in there? not connect to anything, causing a blockage, maybe I should remove it?") he probbably could have soved it on his own, that is amazingly obvious when you think about.

However, Dad could just be 100% Pc illeteriate, but still he was upset simply because he was embarrased or felt the need to punish the kid for Dad's actions.

Logan

[SARGE]

I was well into my 20's when I discovered my Dad wasn't as dumb as I had thought. He suddenly became brilliant and right. Perhaps that's the norm. Jenni's right - appreciate 'em while they're still around.

[The_Judas]

I agree with the people that say that parents need respect and that the definition "stupid" for them was wrong.

Many parents try to cover their own mistakes by punishing their children in
various ways.Sometimes it's hard to communicate with their kids and when their
arguments are not very strong the easy way is punisment.

[Colonel Sanders]

Well, overall stupid? No. Computer-illiterate(sp?) and thus *stupid*? Yes. There are some subjects I know more about than my Dad, but once he gets into law and accounting and I just slowly slide away as not to draw too much attention. Will he think his Dad is as stupid when he is not still upset? Probbably not(??).

Logan

[Quadron_Computers]

This is www.PCMech.com not www.MyParentsBeatMe.com or www.DontPostIgnorantThreads.com

[SARGE]

And your point is...

[glc]

I think it's getting near time to wrap this thread up, folks. I think we have adequately crucified the original poster, who has not replied in quite a while, and we are now just bickering amongst ourselves. Unless someone can give me a good reason not to, I'm closing this thread tomorrow morning.

[SARGE]

Good point, glc. The thing that separates PCMech from the others is one not only gets & provides technical info, but can exert the "human" side as well, here in General Discussions. Dok, you and the other mods allow this but also keep a tight rein when things get close to the edge. The threads usually have a short life expectancy anyway. It's nice knowing folks have other interests besides the geek stuff.

[ylen13]

Originally posted by glc I think it's getting near time to wrap this thread up, folks. I think we have adequately crucified the original poster, who has not replied in quite a while, and we are now just bickering amongst ourselves. Unless someone can give me a good reason not to, I'm closing this thread tomorrow morning.

i tryed hard to find a reason to keep this thread open,but freankly i ca't seem to find one.

[Colonel Sanders]

Well, if I told you why I think you want to close this thread I'd probbably lose my membership here, close the thread.

Logan