thanksgiving gift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kraken]

Stuart
[QUOTE]What I was interested in was how each Nationality would react to the witness of a crime.I suspect that in a very material society, most people would turn away and say good luck to the criminal, since they were stealing from a big business, which is often perceived to be crooks themselves. [quote]

by stating that you suspect most people would turn away and say good luck is based on an emotive response and not a factual one based on research. Who designates what is a criminal act, stealing a loaf of bread is a criminal act, but if it was to feed starving infants, is it? Yet you designate them to be criminal regardless. Those of us with less are often percieved to be criminal if we want more without slaving ourselves to the same big business. Life is not about economics, it is about ourselves and how we approach it.

The most important factor is intent. Why did someone do the things they did? That is the true meaning of criminal.

[StuartW]

Originally posted by kraken My furore was in the addendum, not taking an answer based on the question posed and analysing it from that basis, leads to misunderstandings that form prejudices. [/B]

I accept that I was at fault here;perhaps I was trying to be a little too clever with my response.

Your answer to my original - simple- question, that you would report the youth if he p****d you off, I find an interesting response to the witness of a crime.

[Edited by StuartW on 12-10-2000 at 07:39 AM]

[troysvihl]

i think there's a whole world of difference between someone keeping a computer he shouldn't and reporting someone else that has commited a crime. Not reporting someone else's crime isn't the same thing as being a crook yourself. The best way to live is by example. Trying to force others to live moralistically is a waste of limited resources.



btw kraken - i gotta disagree that life isn't about economics. economics effects almost every area of our lives and is probably the most important thing in this world.

[kraken]

StuartW

Simple
don't mess with me and I won't mess with you

[kraken]

Troysvil

Economics plays a part in everyones lives. However that by which you are judged is not the wads in your pocket it is the heart that beats.

[StuartW]

Originally posted by kraken StuartW Simple don't mess with me and I won't mess with you

Surely this is not a personal threat against myself. Exactly what do you mean?

[kraken]

It refers to the pis**d off statement.

If you (the thief) don't bother me in any way, shape or form, I will not bother you.

Many things can pis* me off, this arguement is NOT one of them.

It is easy to misinterpret, that is the point. Always be clear and concise with your arguements and go into as much detail as does not cloud the issue.

I will not ever personally threaten anyone who does not threaten me first. So your percieved threat is a misnomer. I should have been more clear.

[AlwaysUp]

Crap, guys! How did we get so far off the topic? Many differing opinions here, but I stand on the already stated side of the fence....I could not, in any way, for any reason; justify keeping something I was aware had not been paid for. I don't know any of you who would honestly consider giving your goods or services away, except maybe as a donation....I believe it would be a streeeetch to believe rationalizing a scenario whereby keeping it would be anything other than WRONG. My 2 cents.

[kraken]

Alwaysup

If you had read all the posts, you would have noticed that Stuartw posted a question relating to the original post in search of opinions.

Silly me, I replied. The response from StuartW added more info to the original theoretical situation. My replies have been to educate Stuart not to use theoretical questions and then change the circumstances because of a reply.

Stuart graciously admitted his over-enthusiasm.

This thread was done with weeks ago, but I could not refuse the challenge to refute.

Your stance is admirable.

[StuartW]

Originally posted by kraken The response from StuartW added more info to the original theoretical situation. My replies have been to educate Stuart not to use theoretical questions and then change the circumstances because of a reply.

In my defence, much of my daytime work involves setting up theoretical situations, and then changing parameters to see what response I get. I am afraid I sometimes can't get out of this 'work mode' when having a general discussion.

[LawyerRon]

Stuart,
Don't get me started.

[StuartW]

?

[bailey]

so what is the bottom line here did he call the insurance co or what??

who has the laptop now??

[kraken]

Bailey

Eshort called his insurance company and told them of the find. We still do not know of the outcome of this.

[jessho]

All persons ought to endeavor to follow what is right, and not what is established.
- Aristotle

[eshort]

very interesting replies!!!

I called insurance agenct 11/23...i received a call about 10 days later from the insurance company saying i had to return the computer...

i returned the unit (with tears in my eyes) to the insurance co--i bety the claims rep gets a bonus as MY honesty saved her company over $3000 9PS- they even sent me a copy of Office 2000 Professional which i also had to return)..

what got me was: I asked the claims rep if i could keep the machine anopther few days cuase the "found" one has to go back (!!!) for re-repair--and she said "NO"
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great reward for honesty huhhh!!!!!!!!!

[Edited by eshort on 12-23-2000 at 12:29 PM]

[Jenni]

Being that you did what I would have done, the right thing, if I were in your position, I would be MAD! After being burgalarized of several thousand dollars worth of stuff and getting a check for $47.91 from my insurance company, I told them that I would most definitely NOT be renewing my policy. It is great that your insurance company bought you a new laptop to begin with. I wonder who gets it. Surely Compaq doesn't want it back. So some insurance co. bigwig probably got a new toy for Christmas. Personally I think insurance is nothing but a big rip off anyway.

[kraken]

Sounds like you would have been better off never finding the lost item.

It is drummed into us from an early age that honesty is the best policy. Most economically challenged people that I know are of the honest variety, while those of some means, are always looking for ways to get ahead, by any methods at their disposal. (personal experience)

Honesty is the best policy, most of the time, but not always.

[kraken]

Jenni

Wheres the honesty in your situation. Did the insurance co honestly give you what your policy stated you should get or was there some "fine print" that got them off the hook.