need to save some fuel?

[homer15]

bah, good luck.

http://219.129.20.208/hehe/fm/

[HAL9000]

I haven't tried it yet.. but a friend of mine has... and you don't need to pay $89.95 for it either.. you just need to clip a couple magnets to the fuel line so they have a magnetic pull across the fuel line. He seems to think it is helping, but to be sure, he's going to run several milage checks to see where he's at right now.

[morriswindgate]

An d if the magnets don't increase the fuel mileage, you can remove them from the car and put them down the front of you pants. They say magnets can do wonders there also.

And if you need a few more great ideas:

http://www.mtn.org/quack/index.htm

[mbossman2]

ummm....for a magnet to affect the flow of fuel, wouldn't there have to be something ferrous in the fuel, like steel?

[diver203_98]

Hey morris, I remember that helmet contraption. Dr. Emmet Brown had one off those in Back To The Future. And although it didn't work it was a real attention getter...LOL

[homer15]

this doesn't just improve gas mileage, though, it produces more torque and horsepower! it's a miracle (cheap little) piece of plastic with magnets.

[bailey]

if you don't mind trading a littel horse power for mere milege, then the littel riser block and fine mesh screen inder the carb was the best one I have ever seen.
but today they don't use carbs anymore.

[Dswissmiss]

My browser couldn't load the first link, but it reminds me of those cell phone stickers that prevent magnetic or waves from frying your brain. They sell these things for like 20 bucks, even though no research has yet found that the waves emmited from a cellphones are thin enough to enter cells and change the chemistry of your brain to give you cancer. Oh well, I'm off to spray a bottle of lysol all over my room...

[Confused]

And if the milage doesn't increase you can always use them for their intended purpose. Hold notes on the fridge.
Chas

[TwoRails]

LOL The link didn't work for me, either, but I have seen so many "miracle" gas mileage improvement scams, err.. I mean schemes, that I don't have any faith in magnets, either. If gasoline was magnetic, which it isn't, then, as the fuel passes past the mag, then it would be pulled Back toward the mag anyway...

[raftero]

thats an oldie from back in the seventies,i tried it then and it didn't do anything that i coud tell.

[Trent Steel]

This device is right up there with the Cyclone or Turbo Tornado. If these things trully increased gas mileage they would be installed in the factory.

[pop-tart]

If these things trully increased gas mileage they would be installed in the factory.

no way, because than that would mean that major business has stopped screwing over the average consumer.

[HAL9000]

Conspiracy theory... gas prices go up, economy devices go on for more milage, gas prices go up... viscious circle all with people making money while the consumer spends to try and save money.

[TwoRails]

Originally posted by pop-tart no way, because than that would mean that major business has stopped screwing over the average consumer.

Not nescessarily so. Look at all the cars like the Vette, Caddie, Honda,(and even leading edge companies in fuel mileage increases, like UPS), etc, that spead mega-dollars squeezing everything out of an engine. They go thru major trouble getting more power And more mileage out of their engines. If something so simple as a little magnet will be of benifet, yes, they would use it.

[pop-tart]

Look at the gas in a positive light, over the past 20 years, car prices has sky rocketed..people now pay three times as much for a car in 2004 as one would have in 1974. Gas prices really haven't moved too much over the course of the past 30 years or so (maybe it would be safe to say even longer if you throw in the inflation factor..but i'm not going to even try to prove that)

I think the problem people have is the principal behind it, they say that american corporations now have the largest stock of oil reserves they've ever had and i'm sure we're all aware that they have recieved the most profits they ever had this year.

But the joke of it all is, this country is so lazy, that we can't even walk a block to the local quicky-mart. Instead we have to drive our gas guzzling SUV's or dodge ram's down, and than complain about gas prices once we see the sign.

[jimmyrules712]

if you keep inflation in mind, prices havnt sky rocketed that much. we may think they only had to pay $.50 a gallon back then, but tback then that was a lot of money (compared to now anyway)

[Redfallon]

Originally posted by pop-tart Instead we have to drive our gas guzzling SUV's or dodge ram's down, and than complain about gas prices once we see the sign.

...Only in America...

[HAL9000]

Ya.. and you guys should quit whining... you have cheaper prices than here in Canada and just wait till those in the UK speak up.

[homer15]

but we also have to pay for stuff, like college, on top of paying the gas to drive there.

[Confused]

Originally posted by HAL9000 Ya.. and you guys should quit whining... you have cheaper prices than here in Canada and just wait till those in the UK speak up.

Canada and UK pay the same price for a barrel of crude on the world market as the US, Japan, China, ect.

The tax base, and formulations to some extent determines price difference. Here in Louisville we have the use reforumlated gas. I was down at our neighboring county to the south this morning and gas was .07 cheaper just crossing the county line.
Chas

[raftero]

in 1967 i was paying 18.9 cents for a gallon now its $1.79 my wages havent gone up that much,but i guess if it goes to $5 i will still drive,maybe cut down a little.of course in 1967 you could get a new pickup for $2000 now it $20,000 or more.don't know anything i can do about so i'll grin and bear it i guess.

[morriswindgate]

Back in 1967 the Major Oil Companies took the oil out of the ground, refined it at their refineries, then sold it through their own stations. The cam e Jimmy Bob Carter, who thought that this allowed OIl Companies to rip people off. So after Carter got through with things, the Major Oil Companies took the oil out of the ground, then they sold the crude oil on the commodities market, then the refineries bought the oil off of the traders to refine, then the refinery sold the reined product on the commodities market, then the distributors bought the reined product from brokers, then sold it to local retailers.
So thanks to the biggest dumb*** that ever served as a president we went from three levels within one company and one single profit to six levels where each is a seperate profit taker.

[HAL9000]

Originally posted by Confused Canada and UK pay the same price for a barrel of crude on the world market as the US, Japan, China, ect. The tax base, and formulations to some extent determines price difference. Here in Louisville we have the use reforumlated gas. I was down at our neighboring county to the south this morning and gas was .07 cheaper just crossing the county line. Chas

Ummm so whats your point... if you were taxed heavily you wouldn't mind paying 2-3 bucks per litre? Price is price no matter what the forumlation, crude oil prices or taxes... My point still stands... quit whining about your prices when you have it cheap already.

I pay $2.40USD per US gallon right now.. what do you pay?

[pop-tart]

I don't know why you people drive in louisville.. wouldent it make sense to use horses..correct me if im wrong..but dident you guys have the best horses just run through there?

As for canadian and british gasoline prices, thats sorta your own fault, we do live in a western world where we elect our own governments.

[HAL9000]

WTH does that mean... we elect our own governments too.

[TwoRails]

Hmmm..... maybe one gov official has magnets in their shoes? and one doesn't (magnetic shoes are expensive, by the way...)

[pop-tart]

ehh..what it means is that us westerners (that is britain, united states, canada, australia + minor others) are under democratic governments whom we elect.

so basically, we vote for the same corporate people who raise the gas prices to their own benifit.

[Trent Steel]

82.5 cents/litre here in edmonton ---> roughly $2.46/gal
worse in Vancouver or the Maritimes
92 cents/litre ---> $2.74/gal

Happy no one in our family drives an SUV (I detest those things with a passion).

[mbossman2]

Originally posted by pop-tart so basically, we vote for the same corporate people who raise the gas prices to their own benifit.

Gas price goes up and down due to 1 thing:

Supply and demand

As either increases (or decreases) so does the price.

Right now there are several things going on:

1) there is a deficiency in the USA's ability to refine crude into gasoline. Right now the USA has a need for between 7-8 million gallons of gas per day, we have the ability to produce 8-8.5 million gallons per day....a surplus right? so more supply than demand right? wrong:

2) we have, as pointed out in a previous entry, requirements to have different formulations of gasoline dependent upon region. the real kicker here is that formulation A for region #1 does not meet the requirements of formulation B for region #2, so if region #1 produces more than they need, they can't just put it in a truck and ship it over to region #2 for use...the region #1 gas is "illegal" in region #2. So supply is kept artificially low (which means the price goes up)...the environmentalists had good ideas for this (lower emissions etc) but like many do-gooders forget to read their basic economic text books.

3) seasonal spike in demand - we are coming up to the summer season, where traditionally families hop in the car and take the annual summer vacation. With many families doing this every year, there is an increase in the demand which as we have seen in #2, can not be met with supply so the price creeps up (and will creep right back down in the fall, coincidentally in time for the presidential election which ALWAYS gets the conspriacy theorists' tongues wagging and fingers pointing)

4) Uncertainty in crude supply: currently the OPEC members have been signalling an interest in decreasing overall production. As production drops prices go up.

5) and finally, for the 1st time, there is serious competition for crude oil. Several emerging Far Eastern nations (the People's Republic of China, India etc) have greatly increased their needs for petroleum, far more than was projected and this has greatly increased the demand (demand up, prices up).

So there really isn't (eventho many people still beleive there is) some cabal of the ultrarich (or government bureaucrats) who are sitting around deciding that this week we'll add 10 cents/gallon to the cost of gasoline so that they can increase their revenues and profits and make the rich even richer and poor even poorer.