trying to help my brother...

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Hey, me and my brother need to find out if this will work with a regular white PCI slot.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1130987962366

If it doesn't work with a white PCI slot, does it work with PCI-EX X1 slots?

[Panama Red]

Yup, standard PCI slot.

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One last thing. Would that be able to run counter strike source,HL2. At medium-low setting smoothly?(around 30 FPS)

[Panama Red]

I'm not a gamer so I have no experience to draw from but a PCI card is a lot weaker than AGP or PCI-e just due to transfer rates. Maybe someone else has some personal experience to draw from.

[blue60007]

A 6200 definitely isn't a gaming card. However, the source engine (CS:S, HL2, etc) runs very well on older hardware (albeit at lower settings). I couldn't tell you exactly how well it will run, but the Source engine will run decently on just about anything.

[glc]

It's priced at 3x what it's worth - are you trying to turn a computer with no AGP or PCI-E slot into a gamer? Good luck. Note the 300 watt power supply requirement........

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Thats good to know. My friend had a Geforce 5800. He said he can run counter strike source max(Textues,modles,shadows) and run it perfectly. I doubt it though. I did see him play F.E.A.R on medium and it was very very smooth.

Edit;About the price, I see one of ebay for $40.00(ITs a bid.) Going to try to see if I can get that.And no, I just want to help him out. Its my old computer, I gave it too him. So its his choice of choosing if he wants to turn it into a good rig.It has 2 regular PCI slots, and 1 PCI-EX X1. Nothing good at all, but if it can run source hes cool.

One thing, How can I check the power supply of his computer?Would it be on a label or something?

[glc]

Is this a name brand computer or a custom? Either way, some details would help. It *may* have pretty decent onboard video, and all you may need is more system ram. I just think it's nuts throwing $160 into a PCI card.

I run into this all the time with customers - they want me to build them a cheap computer - all they want it for is general surfing and office type work. Well, the only way to do this is use a cheap motherboard with onboard video and no advanced slots. Getting a board with a slot and putting in a beefier power supply costs more and they won't hear of it. Wellllll........several months later now they want to game with it. Ain't gonna happen, folks.

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Well, I'am not going to pay more than $100 for the video card. Getting in from Ebay hopefully.
The Onboard is acttually pretty nice, on the crappier maps like fy_iceworld it can run it up to a maximum of 45-50 FPS. Its just most of the other maps, its below 10 FPS.
I used to play CS and DoD(Counter strike and day of defeat) it runs them both at a solid 50-70 FPS. As for the computer, its a Emachines.
http://www.emachines.com/products/pr...tml?prod=D5039 <----Picture of the exact computer.

When I first orginally bought this computer, I told the sales guy I want a gaming computer. The best gaming computer here. However, he kept trying to show me these other computers that come with packages(free printer,paper,ink,surge protectors, etc). I tried to deny him but my dad just rushed me through and I ended up with this one, which is going to end up with my brother.

[jimmyrules712]

make sure the ebay one is for a PCI slot.

either way, for $180 you can buy a new motherboard, CPU, and a video card (that will be much better than the one you listed above).

so would I spend $157 on that slower PCI video card?..no

but to answer your original question, yes it will work with your PC.

[glc]

I doubt any PCI card is going to be much better than that onboard video.

[jfk]

Originally Posted by glc I doubt any PCI card is going to be much better than that onboard video.

To a point I agree. I did drop a 9250 PCI card into my kid's Dimension 3000 and it doubled benchies. It also stopped some BSOD they were having playing a couple games. Overall, it DID provide an improvement, but it did NOT turn that PC into even a good gamer. It became acceptable for certain games, that's it.

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Ok. Update. When I found out my friend actually has a 5700LE and we tested CS:source out of his computer. Here are the settings

Models=High
Textures=High
Shaders=High
Water=High
Shadows=High
AAmode=4X
filtering=Ansiotropic 16x
Vsync=Enabled(Not sure what it is)
HDR=Bloom
Resolution=1024x768

We tested this on the map called cs_assault
We got a constant 25-30 FPS. It never went below 25 FPS. It never went above 30 FPS.

So I'am going to go ahead and get the 6200.

[glc]

What type is the 5700LE? An AGP 5700LE will spank a PCI 6200 in a heartbeat.

[newbuilder14]

Originally Posted by glc It's priced at 3x what it's worth - are you trying to turn a computer with no AGP or PCI-E slot into a gamer? Good luck. Note the 300 watt power supply requirement........

I have a 305w power supply and a 6600 and have had no problems at all. I even went to a PSU calculator. It all depends on what other hardware you have.

[glc]

No, it depends more on the quality of the power supply. A high quality 305 watt is better than a cheap 500 watt. I've run under minimums with quality units - I have a customer that ran a GF4 Ti4400 (300 watt recommendation) in a Dell with a 200 watt Delta unit with no issues. Minimums are published as recommendations based on average to lousy quality to cover themselves. PSU calculators are pretty much useless due to the widely varying quality of units. It's the rail amperage and stability that really counts. I'll take a $50 350 watt unit made by someone like FSP over a $20 600 watt unit made by L&C in a heartbeat.

[heymrdj]

Originally Posted by glc No, it depends more on the quality of the power supply. A high quality 305 watt is better than a cheap 500 watt. I've run under minimums with quality units - I have a customer that ran a GF4 Ti4400 (300 watt recommendation) in a Dell with a 200 watt Delta unit with no issues. Minimums are published as recommendations based on average to lousy quality to cover themselves. PSU calculators are pretty much useless due to the widely varying quality of units. It's the rail amperage and stability that really counts. I'll take a $50 350 watt unit made by someone like FSP over a $20 600 watt unit made by L&C in a heartbeat.

Our Dell 4500 has a 250 watt Fortron and it runs 2 HD's and a good size gfx card. 2.53GHZ 533 bus Northwood P4 though..that kinda reduces power draw.