geforce fx question

[Werewolfdaddy]

Okay, I'm usually on top of things as far as nvidia graphic cards go, but I've actually slept this week. When the fx finally ships, which will be the best one of the fx series. From what I understand, the 5800 will be the best, but I've also heard something about an ultra version. Should I wait for the 5800 ultra or is this the same card.

Geez, I get 8 hours sleep for one night and I'm out of the loop.

[Colonel Sanders]

Why not go for a RAdeon 9800? I believe that will have more power than a GeForce FX 5800.

L J

[Spyda]

FX 5800Ultra will be the only one worth getting
i bet there will be a new one out by the time proper DX9 games are coming out.
everywhere i read, they all say the same thing, it will be the best by the time full DX9 games come out, but by then it will be outdated

[wolfie]

I thought the 5800 ultra was going to be 256mb and not 128. i could be wrong.

wolfie

[pam123]

NVidia hasn't been forthcoming about release dates and the reviews were awful.
It supposed to be out by mid-April but then it was also supposed to be in the stores for Xmas.

[Spyda]

the only FXs ive seen are 128s, i have seen a Radeon 9800Pro 256MB though, radeons dont look like they are fast graphics cards, the heatsinks dont look big enough, with the FX, it looks like a fast graphics card because of the cooler, but the 9800 looks like my GF2MX400s

[Werewolfdaddy]

The 9700 pro is a fast card. It outdoes the old ti4600 in just about every test, but I don't know about the fx.

[pam123]

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic...311/index.html
This review covers every benchmark from the Ti4200 to the 9800 to the GFX 5800 Ultra despite it's title.
Enjoy!

[BearEater]

here people.

radeon 9800 is the fastest available card.

nvidia fx,aka dustbuster, hasnt impressed any reviewers...

"Both cards feature support for DirectX 9 and OpenGL, as well as 8X AGP. Although both have 128MB of memory, the 5800 Ultra contains the faster 500-MHz (effectively 1-GHz) DDR-II—a misleading name, since there is no DDR2 spec yet. The 9800 Pro's 340-MHz DDR (effectively 680-MHz) works with a 256-bit memory interface. The GeForce FX uses 128-bit architecture. These differences give the 9800 Pro a memory bandwidth of 21.8 GBps, compared with only 16 GBps in the 5800 Ultra."

[Colonel Sanders]

Originally posted by Spyda the only FXs ive seen are 128s, i have seen a Radeon 9800Pro 256MB though, radeons dont look like they are fast graphics cards, the heatsinks dont look big enough, with the FX, it looks like a fast graphics card because of the cooler, but the 9800 looks like my GF2MX400s

A small heatsink is a good thing, the 9800 simply has better heat management and won't sound like a dust-buster.

L J

[Spyda]

yea, but its just the 'big cooler, wow that must be reeeaaally fast' value

[Looneycooney]

yo guys..


in the clan where i am in, we had the same discussion...

the fx will NOT rule over ati-pro cards...
but when u get a non-pro ati u better watch out!
i don't have the page-links now..but out of several test i've seen it are only the pro-ati's that lead the pack!
when u go for a non-pro version..some fx and ti -cards will do better....
and to say about those heatsinks....i have an hercules and it's provided with extras.....my chips on the card do have several heatsinks and they do look cool...not that i had to have those, but it's nice to c such a lovely appearence behind me window! hehe

The only thing i don't like is that it needs an extra powerplug....i guess for the fan , but with 2hd's 2cd-drives 5 casefans...it's hard to put those cables away..and also it asks extra power...
...i measured my powerusage...and it's very close to my max!!..

[Alienware_Dude]

The ramsinks on the Hercules 9700 Pro(if that's what you're talking about)aren't just for appearance; they make the card a great overclocker.

[Looneycooney]

hhmmm ok i do have had a very nasty experience with overclocking just recently...with an creative gf4 mx440ddr ...by trusting Zalman heatsinks.....don't trust that overclocking nomore...and i didn't even overclocked it!..it just went from bad to worse with that card....

but these 'original' hercules heatsinks are trustworthy? ..nice to know, even though i'll never ever overclock again or put any non-original stuff on it...it's just not worth damaging a perfectly good hardwarepiece...

[TimPoet]

The GF FX cards are a bust. For being the fastest kid on the block ya better stick with Radeon.

[Spyda]

the fxs may get better in time, fx drivers are abslote POS at the moment

[Strider]

I decided to get the AIW Radeon 9700 Pro; however, while I did my research for I did take a look at the reviews of the GF FX cards. Two things that turn me off about those cards, is that the blower takes up a PCI slot in your computer, not such a big deal if you have a lot of PCI slots - it's just the principle of it taking up that slot. An the fact that they haven't unleashed the full potential of the card yet (and it might take a while too) is another factor and it seems that ATI finally has their act together.

[glc]

I don't see much of a problem with the card taking up the first PCI slot - you shouldn't use that slot anyway because of resource sharing.

[Spyda]

what do you mean you shouldnt use that slot? its a PCI the same as the others isnt it?

i havent used it simply because i gave the graphics card a 2 slot gap to give it some breathing room, i filled the 2 slots underneath with some modified backplqates i made, one for usb ports and one to control my fan speeds

[Fastfly]

The first PCI slot shares bandwith with something is what he is a saying.

[glc]

The first slot shares IRQ with the AGP slot. Win2K and XP generally can sort this out if the machine is ACPI capable - and with APIC it sorts it even better, but Win 9x/ME has real problems with this - its ACPI handling leaves a lot to be desired and it doesn't speak APIC at all. Regardless of your OS and motherboard capability, it's generally best to leave that slot open unless it's your last open slot - and if you have to put a card in it, it's best to put something in that doesn't place constant demands on the system or something that operates without an IRQ - like a printer port card or something like that. You definitely don't want a sound card or an IDE/SCSI controller card in there, for example. I've gotten away with putting nics and hardware controlled modems in it.

If you have a card in the first slot and are having video issues or machine lockups/crashes - problems like that - move it.