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Old 04-18-2003, 10:24 PM   #1
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fqpissed AGP running in PCI mode?

Ok this is about the 5th place I have tried to find a answer for this question.

I have a Leadtek winfast AGP GeForce3 64meg Video card running on a Asus A7A266 MB under WinXP Pro. Now running Sisoft, 3DMark03 tells me that this card is running in a PCI slot and to confirm that its not recognized as a agp card both of these programs say there is "0" agp memory. Also useing DirectX 9.0 it will not allow me to run AGP texture acceleration rather a standard test for most AGP cards. Also hardware profile shows it as "PCI Slot 6 (PCI bus 1, device 0, function 0"

I have updated Video, MB bios, Via, AMD chipset. Also have checked bios config on bootup and far as I can tell its as it should be. I am at a loss here....I checked with a few people with agp cards and useing SphereMark as a test we all used it to see what was doing the rendering all but me showed AGP where I showed PCI???
On a sidenote I have had this card little over a year, And never thought anything was amiss even though I built the system.
I upgraded from a 32meg agp to a 64meg and even though I thought at the time this card was not that impressive for the price paid...I never thought to look any further into it!

Sorry anyway getting off track, if anyone can help please suggest anything I am willing to try almost anything (short of buying a new card)! If more system info is needed please just ask...

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Old 04-18-2003, 11:38 PM   #2
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What is the AGP appeture(sp?) size set to in the BIOS? I think it should be twice the RAM on the card(128MB in your case). That is my guess as to what your problem is.

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Old 04-18-2003, 11:53 PM   #3
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Wish it was that easy....

It's set to 128 at the moment, tried 64, 256 etc. These setting did not seem to affect the test results. Anything else I might try?
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Old 04-19-2003, 12:01 AM   #4
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Have you tried totally uninstalling the video card and its drivers and letting the OS "find the new hardware" on its own when you reboot?
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Old 04-19-2003, 01:08 AM   #5
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other than what sisoft reports to you, are you having any other problems with the video card.
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Old 04-19-2003, 03:22 AM   #6
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It runs....

It works as is, but I honestly would like to see it running at its full potential. If its running in PCI mode then its only useing 1/4 of its ability? So you can see why I would like to see if I can get this in full agp mode
As for uninstalling and reinstalling the video card tried that. But perhaps I need to take it a step further and use the detonator destroyer program to remove all drivers from the system before removing the card? Anyway thanks for the feedback and please keep it coming.
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Old 04-19-2003, 07:15 AM   #7
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I had this problem with a Leadtek card one time. I solved it by installing updated chipset drivers for the motherboard.
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Old 04-19-2003, 08:37 AM   #8
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There are BIOS updates for video cards too, and I know I've gotten my TNT2 card running more at its full potential by BIOS updating the video card itsef. It's very similar to bios flashing your mainboard, you just have to get the flash program and the BIOS update from the manufacturers website...
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Old 04-19-2003, 12:30 PM   #9
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You may need to install the latest ALi AGP miniport driver, you can get that from www.ali.com.tw .
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Sorry....

Done the mini port drivers, agp drivers and 4-1 drivers trust me I have tried just about every driver there is. I did install the new video drivers or as new as they get anyway. But there is as far as I can tell no way to flash the bios directly?? I was guessing the update drivers did that. I would love to try and do it myself as thats about the only thing that I have not tried to do. How would I go about this as Leadtek is rather lacking on tech support info??
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No, drivers do not flash the video bios - that's a specialized thing and if Leadtek doesn't offer a specific bios flash, it doesn't exist.

Forget Sisoft and try running 3D Mark 2001, compare your results to similar systems.

By the way, that's not a Via or AMD chipset - its ALi Magik. If you have been installing AMD or Via drivers, that could be a cause of your issues.

A7A = ALi
A7M = AMD
A7V = Via
A7N = Nvidia
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Old 04-20-2003, 01:20 PM   #12
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Mmm

I did the MB Ali drivers that were made specific for my Northbridge/Southbridge setup. I will admit to being tempted to try and install almost anything just to fix the problem, But I did take time to make sure that what I installed was indeed for my CPU, Video etc . But just the same I did not know the different meaning's that you mentioned ALI etc, so thank you for that bit of info. I am guessing the rest of you like me are at a loss? Just the same thanks for trying

Come to think of it I might have accidently installed some Via, I have been working on this problem everyday after work for the last 2 weeks. But the problem was there before I did this. However would perhaps removing all video drivers that have been installed help..there is something called Detonator Destroyer
should I try this?

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Old 04-20-2003, 04:29 PM   #13
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Found Flash Utility....

In the WinFox program there is a Flash program now I just have to figure out how to get the Bios file as its not listed.
On a side note I checked my other computer that is running a Asus MB as well as a AGP card....I noticed that it to was running in PCI mode. I went into that bios and noted that even though its a older Asus model it gave the abilty to choose the AGP card as they primary video driver. Where as the board I have lacks that abilty as well at quite a few other configuration options that would most likely enable me to correct this problem.
Does this make sense to anyone that they would remove 1/4 of the bios options in newer Motherboards?
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That was my first thought after reading you original POST to make sure AGP was selected as the primary display adapter in the BIOS, but from what you said you seem to understand BIOS configuration and seem to have checked that aspect well. I read once that it doesn't make any difference if that is set to PCI and you only have 1 vid card and it's in the AGP slot, cause the system knows the video is in the AGP...
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Normally I would agree with you...

The AGP running in PCI slot under WinXP seems to be a normal setting. However everything else should also indicate that its AGP..thats where the inconsistencies come in.

Useing my other system as a example it shows the AGP running in Slot 6 PCI etc, but running DirectX and other program's show that its running in agp mode. My primary system according to all these tests,
Spheremark,Sandra, DirectX 9.0 and 3DMark03 say the primary driver is indeed a PCI driven card. So either I have a bad AGP slot on my MB or ....at this poing not even sure what the or option would be..lol!

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