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Old 06-01-2003, 08:22 AM   #1
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TV Tuner Card

Ok I want to buy a TV tuner card which are some good tv tuner cards for around 50-60$ and are they real hard to program by connecting to your cable box?? Can somebody please please explain to me what connections go into the tv tuner card? would I be able to use my Video card still with it?? I heard some tv tuner cards need to be alone without a video card?? Thanks alot people.
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Connecting to your cable box wil require nothing, it'll take whatever input is coming out so you don't need a tuner or anything on the PC (the tuner is the cable box)

For budget/quality, along with compatibility with better software than you'll get with the card (the software always sucks ), I'd recommend a Connexant based card such as the Leadtek TV 2000XP or one of the Hauppauge WinTV cards.

Reasons:

1) Cheap
2) Third Party drivers/software available
3) Good quality for the price
4) Cheap

You won't need anything special to go with your video card if you get an independant capture card. Depending on your sound card and the capture card's sound abilities (or lack thereof) you may need some adapters to run the sound from your cable box into your sound card as well.

Some of the slightly-more-expensive capture cards have stereo audio processors onboard, so you might want to take advantage of that if your sound card only has a single channel line-input.

Depends on how picky you are about the audio on that one.
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SO i connect the cable to the tv tuner card? then if I want to watch tv on my regular tv I have to disconnect the cable and put it back to the cable box??
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SO i connect the cable to the tv tuner card? then if I want to watch tv on my regular tv I have to disconnect the cable and put it back to the cable box??
No. You go to Radio Shack and get a splitter and 2 pieces of coax. A short piece for your TV and another long enough to reach your PC. You then disconnect the coax where it goes to TV and plug it into the splitter input. Plug the short coax into one of the outputs and into your TV. Plug the other coax in another splitter output and into your TV tuner card.

TV tuner card will come with channel selector so you can switch channels on PC in order to watch what you want on PC while cable box will still select channels for TV.

Premium channels such as the pay movie channels won't play on the PC since they aren't going thru the cable box.
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Old 06-01-2003, 03:28 PM   #5
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so I cant watch cable channels??
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You can watch any that aren't scrambled such as the movie channels. Remember you are splitting the cable before it hits the cable box which descrambles the premium movie channels.

I watch everything except the scrambled channels.
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Or you could run the cable from the output of the cable box to the PC, which would give you all the channels but not let you change them independently.
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What do you mean scarmbled?? like if I woudl like to watch HBO, or ESPN would I be able to watch these channels confused?
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Old 06-02-2003, 02:38 PM   #9
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It depends on how your cable system is configured. If you can tune those channels with a standard cable ready TV or VCR you can tune them with the card. If you have to use a converter box, then the tuner in the card is useless just like the tuner would be in your VCR or your TV.
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Other than the tuner card you suggested is the ATI All in Wonder PCI version good? it retails at $50 I think.
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Well I use the Time Warner Cable I use that DTV cable box, besides that all I know
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If you have digital cable, you'll be able to tune the analog channels with the card, the digital channels you won't get at all on the card.

If you run the cable to the card after the cable box, you'll get all channels on the card, but won't be able to tune them at all (you'll get whatever channel the box is set to).
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(If you run the cable to the card after the cable box, you'll get all channels on the card, but won't be able to tune them at all (you'll get whatever channel the box is set to)
Can you explain this a little more Xayd? So I would have to just connect the cable wire to the card for me to get all channels?? thx alot.
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Since you have a cable box, the cable box is descrambling the digital channels that you get. Therefore, if you run the cable from the wall to your capture card before it passes through the cable box, the digital channels won't be unscrambled, you won't see them.

If you run the wire from the digital cable box to the capture card you'll get all the channels since they've already been through the cable box and descrambled, but you'll lose the ability to change channels, since the output of the digital cable box is only one channel at a time (you'll get whatever channel the cable box is set to this way).
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Then I would have to change channels from my computer instead of the regular tv right? But then my tv wont have the cable running throught it only my computer?
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You have a cable coming into house. If you split it prior to cable box, then someone can view TV and change channels without affecting your TV selection on PC. Likewise you can change channels on tuner card without affecting TV.

If you split the cable after cable box, then both the TV and PC tuner will have to watch channel that cable box is set to.

So split the cable before the cable box.
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One more time.

You have digital cable. You are using a converter box. If you split AFTER the converter box, you will be able to get all channels on both the TV and the tuner card, but you have to watch the SAME channel on both because the converter box is selecting the channel, you will tune the card to the same channel that your TV is tuned to (usually 3).

If you split before the converter box and run a cable directly from the splitter to the tuner card, the TV will operate as it always has, select the channel on the converter box. The tuner card will only tune unscrambled analog channels, whatever those might be on your system.

If you want full independent function on both the TV and the tuner card, you will have to get a second converter box.

The tuner card works JUST LIKE A TV.
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Ok thx alot guys for the help whats the name of that splitter for the tv tuner card??
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We are talking about a standard cable TV splitter that you can get at Radio Shack.

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=15%2D2582
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