video problems

[endersdad]

I am having problems with 3d acceleration. This is a new motherboard that I have not been able to get to run properly yet. Whenever a game loads that uses 3d acceleration it locks up. I get a grey black screen with a single dot in the upper left corner. The only way out is a reset.

PIII-933
512 MB PC2100 RAM
Soyo 7vda mobo
MSI Ti4200 with 128 RAM
New case with 300 Watt PSU
WinXP home

When I first tried building this It would only boot in 256 color safe mode in win98SE. Upgraded to WinXP home no help. Flashed the bios with the newest available from soyo and was
able to boot to normal windows with frequent crashes. Eventually found a memory error and reversed the order of chips seems to have eliminated the most of the random crashes. Reinstalled winXP home, latest VIA4in1 driver and Nvidia drivers. When I use diagnostic software it crashes when it tries to run 3D accelerator test.

Any suggestions?

[Alienware_Dude]

Do you have two DIMMs installed? If so, remove one, and see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't, remove the other and replace it with the first one, and see if the problem goes away.

[endersdad]

Thanks for the reply Alienware_dude. I had company and was not immediately able to try. I did as you suggested and tried each DIMM seperately. The video test that I was running worked this time but when I load a game it still locks up without displaying any video. I do get a buzz from the speakers and requires a reboot and disk check to come up. Also now getting an error message about insufficent memory to run 16 bit application during logon. each DIMM is 256 DDR

[pam123]

Hi Endersdad,
Welcome to PCMech.
Would you please go into Event Viewer - Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Event Viewer and copy all the error messages for us ? That will tell us what's going wrong and where/when.
It sounds an awful lot as if you have a seriously whacked motherboard.
With that "16 bit memory" error at log-on makes it sound as if the board thinks it's running DOS.
Just for starters are you comfortable with going through your bios at start-up ?
You haven't told us anything about how you've set the board up or how the bios is recognizing the rest of the stuff on your comp.
My first reaction would be to use the clear CMOS jumper and return the board to factory defaults and begin setting it up from scratch.

[endersdad]

Thanks for the reply,
I found the Event Viewer, there a bunch of errors what is the best way to copy them here? As far as doing work on the I have been in the bios several times since trying to get this to work. But have only looked at the options tried not to save anything, I believe I did try change an AGP setting but it had no effect so I set it back to auto. I do have a laptop to connect to the web so I can post from either place. By the way when I moved the HD to this computer I did a delete of ENUM to get it to find the new drivers. (That was under win98SE).

[pam123]

In Event Viewer click on Action and then click on export logs.
This will change the logs into a file, it's saved into MY Documents, that you can then copy into your post.
If I'm understanding you correctly you did the enum trick when you moved your hard drive to the new motherboard and then you installed XP as an upgrade over it ?

[endersdad]

That is correct about the upgrade. The video problem was more severe under win98 could only boot in 256 color safe mode then turn off all hardware acceleration then I could use standard setting (32bit). Thought problem might get better with XP. Later tried a bios flash which did seem to improve the problem and could at least use for other than games.

[endersdad]

The file is about 192 lines long many are information lines should I post all of it or just errors and warnings?

[Xayd]

You can upload it to the forum as a text file. Click post reply then attach file.

[endersdad]

Here is the system error log. I hope

[pam123]

I know what's happening now.
Please post the errors and warnings, they'll tell everyone else who reads this thread just what a faulty OS upgrade looks like and what sort of problems it will cause. I don't know if your system will remain stable long enough for you to pull any data you want off the hard drive but just start with what you need most.
Then you have to format and reinstall.
The XP upgrade disk will do the job by itself as long as you have the 98Se disk to use as an ID.
I can see why you'd try the upgrade as you did, in fact it was ingenious, but it didn't take.
The reason the bios flash helped is that it returned the board bios to factory defaults and you reinstalled the drivers but it did nothing to get rid of other problems. That's why you have a comp that's still thinks it should be running DOS.
We usually recommend a clean install, true not everyone has problems, but now you know what happens when an OS upgrade doesn't work.


Edit: When the Enum trick works it's great but you just ran into one of those times when it didn't quite get there.
I've used it about 30 times since I first learned it here and it worked on all but 2 occassions.
I still don't know why those 2 failed.

[pam123]

I should have have asked for more, could you edit your post and include the Application file as well.
Thanks !

[endersdad]

I can edit the file. To make sure I understand you are saying to remove the data that I need form the HD and do a reformat of the drive and clean install of winXP (not upgrade). I will then have to reinstall all applications correct? The system is fairly stable so I can probably copy things as needed. Incidentally the winXP upgrade did lock up and I had to reboot to get it to work. Also I believe I did have a memory problem when the install was originally done maybe the 2nd DIMM was not seated properly, I did try reupgrading after I corrected the memory reseat.

[endersdad]

Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
Error 9/5/2003 6:19:30 PM Service Control Manager None 7023 N/A MAIN

Warning 9/4/2003 11:03:46 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:59:34 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:59:33 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:59:33 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:59:33 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:59:32 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:59:18 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:59:18 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN

Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:39 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:33 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:33 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:33 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:33 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:32 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:32 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:32 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:32 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:32 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:32 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:31 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:31 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:31 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:31 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:31 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:31 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:30 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:30 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:30 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:30 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:30 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:29 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN
Warning 9/4/2003 10:25:29 PM disk None 51 N/A MAIN

Error 8/30/2003 5:45:07 PM DCOM None 10005 SYSTEM MAIN

Error 9/2/2003 1:00:41 PM Service Control Manager None 7023 N/A MAIN

Error 8/31/2003 5:04:39 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:36 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:34 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:29 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:25 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:22 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:19 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:16 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:13 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:09 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:07 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:03 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:04:00 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:56 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:53 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:50 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:47 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:43 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:32 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:29 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:26 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:23 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:20 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:17 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:14 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:11 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:09 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:06 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:03 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:03:00 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:57 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:50 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:47 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:42 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:39 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:34 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:29 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:26 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:20 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:17 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:14 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:12 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:09 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:06 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:02:02 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:01:59 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:01:31 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:01:28 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:01:24 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:01:22 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:01:17 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:01:13 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:01:02 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:58 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:55 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:52 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:49 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:46 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:43 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:40 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:36 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:33 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:30 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:27 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:24 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:07 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 5:00:03 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 4:59:58 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 4:59:44 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 4:59:23 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 4:59:21 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 4:58:48 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 4:58:44 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 4:58:41 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN
Error 8/31/2003 4:58:38 PM cdrom None 7 N/A MAIN

Error 8/31/2003 10:22:29 AM TermService None 1036 N/A MAIN

Error 8/30/2003 10:12:12 PM Service Control Manager None 7023 N/A MAIN

Error 8/30/2003 7:05:18 PM Service Control Manager None 7023 N/A MAIN

Error 8/30/2003 6:50:08 PM Service Control Manager None 7023 N/A MAIN

Warning 8/30/2003 5:59:39 PM Print None 20 SYSTEM MAIN

Error 8/30/2003 5:58:16 PM System Error (102) 1003 N/A MAIN

Error 8/30/2003 5:56:01 PM sr None 1 N/A MAIN

Error 8/30/2003 5:50:01 PM Setup None 60055 N/A MAIN
Warning 8/30/2003 5:45:43 PM Print None 20 SYSTEM MAIN
As requested here is the Event Viewer log with errors and warings only:

Warning 8/30/2003 5:45:42 PM Print None 20 SYSTEM MAIN
Error 8/30/2003 5:45:07 PM DCOM None 10005 SYSTEM MAIN
Error 8/30/2003 5:45:07 PM DCOM None 10005 SYSTEM MAIN

[pam123]

Yes, that's about what I was expecting to see.
Yes, a complete format and install and then reinstall all your applications, and make sure the drivers are correct for XP and check for any updates for DVD or burniing programs that you use.
If the ram isn't fully seated it will do that.
Here's a link to my favorite bios guide :http://www.rojakpot.com/
It's a more extensive then the one on PCMech but both of them will give excellent info.