Microsoft ready to launch search engine

[rjfvillarosa]

Is it Bill Gates' intention to take over the world?

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5445679.html

Earlier on Tuesday, Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer told shareholders at the company's annual meeting Microsoft would beat Google's technology and double its advertising revenue in the next five years.

"We will catch up, we will surpass," Ballmer said.

[nubbler]

Well, he does look confident.

[mairving]

Yep, typical MS strategy, try to copy what works well for someone else, then leverage their OS and kill the competitor. I am not so sure if it will work this time.

[Cricket]

Why in the world would MS want to mess with a search engine anyway? There are so many out there already. Sounds childish to me.

Cricket

[nubbler]

Originally Posted by Cricket Why in the world would MS want to mess with a search engine anyway? There are so many out there already. Sounds childish to me. Cricket

I guess they want more $$$$. But if it's gonna cause good competiotion then all search engines will get better and it's for us to enjoy, so...let em fight!

[Cricket]

I'll just stick with Google.

Cricket

[mairving]

Originally Posted by Cricket Why in the world would MS want to mess with a search engine anyway? There are so many out there already. Sounds childish to me. Cricket

Too many people are using Google is the reason. Microsoft's goal is to replace Google by integrating the Search tool into Explorer and all their other apps.

[WhatsThisBoxFor?]

Originally Posted by mairving Microsoft's goal is to replace Google by integrating the Search tool into Explorer and all their other apps.

And then get sued for having a monopoly, and antitrust... ...again.

[nubbler]

Originally Posted by WhatsThisBoxFor? And then get sued for having a monopoly, and antitrust... ...again.

Seems like some people/companies just never learn, but i guess they get more money from it and it has longer lasting effects then wht they have to pay their suers(dunno if that's a word)

[Statica]

Whatever the reasons you think for entering the search engine market, it is hardly a childish venture. A search engine is the only place where you get from your known part of the internet, to the unknown, think of the potential for advertising and revenue. Most of us think of the internet like the hard drive on our computer, "we know where it resides, so we know how to get there"; it is a huge step forward to have a program that will crawl the countless websites and catalogue them.
Google is the current leader for search engines, but the current version does have its shortcomings, and sticking with google permanently might not be a prudent solution long-term. There are a number of technologies coming forward that will improve upon Google's design (the assumption of course - and a very weak one - is that Google will keep its current methodology). Search engines like clusty.com do improve upon Google's design as well.

I think the biggest upside (and the consequent downside for other search engines like the old MSN search) was the integrity of the results. Google does allow a company to pay for putting up a sponsored link, but it is usually a tiny after-thought. The actual search results are untainted by companies paying $ just to have a higher listing.

[Force Flow]

I'm certainly not one to cheer for MS's move.

[kram 2.0]

Watch Google make their own Operating System soon. Then it will be a TRUE eye to eye competitor with MS...except Google started from the Search Engine.

kram

[Jaggannath]

Originally Posted by kram8806 Watch Google make their own Operating System soon. Then it will be a TRUE eye to eye competitor with MS...except Google started from the Search Engine. kram

hahaha that'd just be weird
Although believable

And I reckon it's a bad move by M$, they're gonna spend more developing it and advertising it than they are going to get back I reckon. Everyone knows Google

[glc]

M$ will do it, just like they developed IE to kill Netscape, which succeeded.

[Statica]

Ok we have the MS bashing down pat, now consider, if IE didn't happen, if the alternative browser (mind you, at that time everything that was not Netscape was an alternative) never came along, we'd might be mired in a very different web. Remember also that before IE's technologies were deemed insecure and ineffective, Netscape was churning out browser that kept crashing much more than anything IE had to offer.

My personal view is, whatever competition is out there to bring out progress in a browser, in an operating system, in a search engine, is good for us end users. If there wasn't an AMD, a Pentium might be too expensive .. if it were for an ICQ, AIM wouldnt have come about, if it werent for AIM, Y! might not be out there, MSN messenger might still be non-existent... so what have we got to complain about - choose an IM that provides you maximum contact with friends and go with it. If MSN search proves to be more accurate or in any way better than Google then I will be using MSN to search. And if Google comes back smartly enough, I'll be googling again.

[nubbler]

Originally Posted by Statica Ok we have the MS bashing down pat, now consider, if IE didn't happen, if the alternative browser (mind you, at that time everything that was not Netscape was an alternative) never came along, we'd might be mired in a very different web. Remember also that before IE's technologies were deemed insecure and ineffective, Netscape was churning out browser that kept crashing much more than anything IE had to offer. My personal view is, whatever competition is out there to bring out progress in a browser, in an operating system, in a search engine, is good for us end users. If there wasn't an AMD, a Pentium might be too expensive .. if it were for an ICQ, AIM wouldnt have come about, if it werent for AIM, Y! might not be out there, MSN messenger might still be non-existent... so what have we got to complain about - choose an IM that provides you maximum contact with friends and go with it. If MSN search proves to be more accurate or in any way better than Google then I will be using MSN to search. And if Google comes back smartly enough, I'll be googling again.

agreed, that's ecactly what i think. In the end if we aren't the head of either of the companies, we, the users, just get a better product.

so... BRING IT ON!

[glc]

Netscape was churning out browser that kept crashing much more than anything IE had to offer.

It can also be said that Microsoft was doing undocumented things within the OS to actually *cause* Netscape 4.x to crash. This was quite evident with Win 95/98 - back when the antitrust battle was being fought and IE4 (TERRIBLE browser in my opinion) was current.

[Statica]

Netscape used to crash regularly on Win 3.11 too, it crashed regularly with Win95a as well (even at the time, when the only thing new about IE over Netscape was the MARQUEE tag *tee hee*). I'm not trying to side with MS or claim that they are not in there to establish a monopoly, they are, (but that is the credo of every business); what I am saying is that Netscape without competition was prone to releases of just plain bad releases as well - even the so called Gold versions. Because IE has competition, severe competition and exposure over the last few months, changes were made to the program in SP2 - competition is good. Had there been no Mozilla (in a close to stable format), we would have to live with the issues with IE - even the lack of a built in pop-up blocker. But competition from the other so called toolbars helped US (the end-user) finally get a browser whose default nature is to block popups, block executable files and unsigned activex content.