Cable Internet Service

[K A Hall]

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Originally posted by jjh_cycon:
Cable internet service has recently become available in my area. I talked to the local ISP that is providing it, (Charter Communications -- they bought out a local ISP) with some general questions. During the conversation, the "expert" told me that I couldn't have a network hooked up and use the service on both machines. He said that it would only be good for one machine, and I would have to pay another $10 per month for the second machine. My question is this: Is this true, and why can't I use a home network (phone line connections) to access the service from the other machine? Do I actually need two "IP" addresses (like he said) to use two machines?

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No, you do not need 2 IP's in order to share a cable connection. The machine that is connected to the cable modem will have to have 2 NIC's installed in order to share the connection and you can use Internet Connection Sharing from Win98 or other programs to make it work. I am not sure about the phone line network, but I dont see why it would not work.
I had mine set-up like that before, but I opted for the second IP and the modem plugged into a hub instead after a while...seemed to work better for me.
The cable ISP's will not support home networking so you will be on your own as far as making that work.

[HAL9000]

Or, buy yourself something like the router by Linksys, then 254 computers can share the same IP internet connection. Then you have a firewall in place as well.

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If it ain't broke, you're not pushing hard enough!

[This message has been edited by HAL90001 (edited 08-26-2000).]

[jjh_cycon]

Cable internet service has recently become available in my area. I talked to the local ISP that is providing it, (Charter Communications -- they bought out a local ISP) with some general questions. During the conversation, the "expert" told me that I couldn't have a network hooked up and use the service on both machines. He said that it would only be good for one machine, and I would have to pay another $10 per month for the second machine. My question is this: Is this true, and why can't I use a home network (phone line connections) to access the service from the other machine? Do I actually need two "IP" addresses (like he said) to use two machines?

[jjh_cycon]

Why would I need two network cards in the machine that is connected to the cable? By the way, the machine connected to the cable is a desktop, while the other machine I want to network is a laptop.

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Originally posted by 1funguy:
No, you do not need 2 IP's in order to share a cable connection. The machine that is connected to the cable modem will have to have 2 NIC's installed in order to share the connection and you can use Internet Connection Sharing from Win98 or other programs to make it work. I am not sure about the phone line network, but I dont see why it would not work.
I had mine set-up like that before, but I opted for the second IP and the modem plugged into a hub instead after a while...seemed to work better for me.
The cable ISP's will not support home networking so you will be on your own as far as making that work.

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[K A Hall]

1 card would have the cable running to the modem and the other would have the cable running to the other pc that you are going to share the connection with.

[HAL9000]

You should only need 1 NIC in each computer if you are going to use a hub. Each computer would plug into the hub, and the cable modem would plug into the hub's uplink port (or standard port if you use a crossover cable). If you do not want to use a hub or router, then yes, one computer would have 2 NIC's installed as mentioned above, 1 for the cable modem, 1 to network to the other computer to share internet (which would also need a NIC)

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If it ain't broke, you're not pushing hard enough!

[jjh_cycon]

If I understand you correctly, I would need a NIC card for both computers, right? That would make the two computers networked. Can I share the modem connection over this network?

[glc]

If you want to share a single connection without buying a second IP address, you must either have 2 NIC's in one computer or use a router such as the Linksys. A second NIC is a lot cheaper but a router is a better solution - take your pick.

[mechadon]

I was told the same thing by the guy who installed my roadrunner cable service. He said that in order to have two computers hooked up using one IP address I would need a router. But I set up Internet Connection Sharing and it works great while only using one IP address. You need 2 network cards in one of the machines, this machine must also have Windows 98 second edition installed on it. The cable modem connects to one of the network cards on this machine. Then you need to use the other network card to connect the two computers together. I use a crossover cable which allows you to bypass buying a hub. The crossover cable runs directly from the second network card to the network card on the other machine. As far as installing Internet Connection Sharing and getting it all set up right the first time here is a great link:http://www.annoyances.org/win98/features/ics.html

Hope this clears up your questions.

[Skinny Boy]

All above is true, I used the W98SE stuff at first, but was having IRQ issues w/ the second nic, seems I have lots of stuff plugged into all my slots Now I have the netgear 311 router, was really good price, and soooooo easy, basically plug and play, not pray, no addresing to set up, was all done automatically, and I can play online games and everything. I have a switch I plugged into the uplink port from the router and then the 2 computers onto the switch, got a 100mb lan, to the 10mb cable, works nice.

[HAL9000]

You don't "need" a router, although it will give you the firewall protection. At work, I have the ADSL modem plugged into the hub, the IP assigned to one machine running ICS, enable DHCP on the rest of the computers and they all get internet. Have my cable modem at home doing the same thing.

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If it ain't broke, you're not pushing hard enough!

[Skinny Boy]

Like Hal said, you don't "need" a router, it can be done very cheaply w/ w98se or some software, and another nic, and a cable, BUT for ease if set up, it was nothing to use the router, and it doesn't depend on the 1 computer being on to have access for the other's. With the router and hub or switch, I can have access to the web for all my computer's anytime, regardless of what other computers are on. There again, if you leave them on all the time, guess it doesn't matter.