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LawyerRon · 07-28-2002, 06:08 PM

I just finished installing a PCMCIA NIC in a laptop (p133) that's running WIN95B. It's on our network at home and I was going to get in on the net but someone's deleted Internet Explorer. How do I get on the Net now? I don't have a WIN 95B cd to install an older version of IE. I've got my 98SE cd.

I want to get on the net with ANY version of IE and then upgrade it to 6.0. Suggestions?

Blankman · 07-28-2002, 06:14 PM

What about doing a download of Opera since it's alot smaller, about 11mb, burning it to disc, and then you have a working browser.

DrZaius · 07-28-2002, 06:14 PM

Hi Ron,

Can you visit a site by typing the URL in the Windows Explorer bar? If not, do you have another system with a CD burner so you can install a copy of Mozilla?

LawyerRon · 07-28-2002, 06:23 PM

DrZ, I've got two systems running 98SE with burners.

I don't remember, does 95 have a windows explorer bar?

Perhaps the suggestions about downloading Opera or Mozilla, then burning them is the way to go.

Also, will IE 6.0 run on WIN95B???

DrZaius · 07-28-2002, 06:24 PM

I havn't used Win95 in a while, so I'm not sure if it has the built-in explorer feature. As far as I know, IE6 will work with any version of Windows.

Hmm, just checked the IE site and they list this.

Quote:

Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows NT 4.0 with Service Pack 6a (SP6a) and higher, or Windows 2000

Then again, they don't list WinXP either, so I don't know for sure. Win95 and 98 are pretty much the same, so I think it should work.

LawyerRon · 07-28-2002, 06:30 PM

OK, thanks Z, I'm downloading Opera right now. I'll transfer it over the network to the laptop and that should be a start.

Thanks!

LawyerRon · 07-28-2002, 06:49 PM

UPDATE:
I downloaded opera and I'm on the internet now. I might just keep Opera on there as the drive is a 1.2gb and only has about 400mb free.

Thanks all.

Streams · 07-28-2002, 09:56 PM

IE 6.0 will not run on Windows 95 at all.

LawyerRon · 07-28-2002, 11:01 PM

Streams,
That's what I thought by the info on Intel's site. What's the alternative if you want IE? Download 5.0?

lpc300 · 07-28-2002, 11:09 PM

Hi Ron,

Think you need to go back to IE 4.0 for Win95. I don't think IE 5.0 will work. If M$'s site doesn't have it, I think cNet does.

Streams · 07-29-2002, 03:15 AM

If you can find IE 5.5 that will work fine

Streams · 07-29-2002, 03:23 AM

You can download IE5.5 here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...2/download.asp

LawyerRon · 07-29-2002, 08:12 AM

OK, thanks guys, I might just keep Opera on this machine since I'm sure it's a much smaller proggy than IE and this machine only has about 400mb free. It will only need to access the web occasionally.

Harry · 07-29-2002, 11:30 AM

I think there is also a Dos browser called Arachne. It's only about 5 megs and wouldn't take long to download.

Streams · 07-29-2002, 10:34 PM

Harry: could you give us a link to this DOS browser.

Xion · 07-29-2002, 10:46 PM

Lol, I just had to laugh at 1.2 gigs. Heh. I have a 95b computer that has 800 mb, so I shouldn't be talking, though no one uses it.

Heh, just get netscape?

***glc*** · 07-30-2002, 04:20 PM

Ron: Yes, you can run IE up through 5.5 on 95b, but I strongly recommend that you do not install IE4+ on it. The desktop and OS integration baggage will slow that old beast way down and also destabilize 95. Stick with Opera or put Mozilla on it.

There is a reason that Win95C is regarded as the worst version of Win9x made - it came with IE4. 95B is still nice and lean with IE3 or an alternative browser.

DrZaius · 07-30-2002, 04:22 PM

Streams: http://arachne.browser.org/

Streams · 07-30-2002, 07:28 PM

Thanks DrZaius

erucader · 07-30-2002, 07:57 PM

Win95 didn't have integrated Windows explorer with internet - that was a new feature on 98. btw there is an ie installer on M$ Office

jamesrpm · 07-30-2002, 08:26 PM

Just when you think those old AOL disks are worthless. :^)

Streams · 07-30-2002, 09:34 PM

It depends on the version of windows 95. Windows 95 B and up had a very ugly looking IE. When you first install windows you would have and icon on the desktop labeled "The Internet" which was the old IE. I think i you go to add remove programs ==> windows components there should be a browser buried there either labeled internet explorer or The internet.

***glc*** · 07-31-2002, 07:11 AM

95B had IE3. 95C had IE4 with the desktop integration, very unstable. If you want to run IE4+, upgrade to win98, it's a lot more stable than upgrading IE on 95.

Xayd · 07-31-2002, 10:46 AM

Also, a bit late i guess but...

>ftp ftp.netscape.com
>anonymous
>anonymous
>binary

Then move to the pub directory and find the exe.

You can ftp in dos to netscape's ftp site and grab a browser that way

.

LawyerRon · 07-31-2002, 10:44 PM

Thanks for the info folks, Opera's working very nicely on this little machine so I think my daughter will just stay with that. She uses it mostly for a grading program in her 4th grade class, though she might have to occasionally d/l a file. The main issue was network access via a pcmcia card. I installed the Linksys model glc recommended and it was on our network in no time. I downloaded Opera to my machine, transferred it to hers over the nework, launched Opera and I was on the net.

07-28-2002, 06:08 PM	#1
LawyerRon The Gavel Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Upland, CA Posts: 6,320	How do I get on the Internet with no browser?? I just finished installing a PCMCIA NIC in a laptop (p133) that's running WIN95B. It's on our network at home and I was going to get in on the net but someone's deleted Internet Explorer. How do I get on the Net now? I don't have a WIN 95B cd to install an older version of IE. I've got my 98SE cd. I want to get on the net with ANY version of IE and then upgrade it to 6.0. Suggestions? __________________ "To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves"

07-28-2002, 06:14 PM	#2
Blankman Member (10 bit) Join Date: May 1999 Location: Northwest Posts: 585	What about doing a download of Opera since it's alot smaller, about 11mb, burning it to disc, and then you have a working browser. __________________ Prost!

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erucader Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 637	Win95 didn't have integrated Windows explorer with internet - that was a new feature on 98. btw there is an ie installer on M$ Office __________________ Dell XPS M1530 Xbox 360

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07-28-2002, 06:14 PM	#3
DrZaius Member (13 bit) Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 7,030	Hi Ron, Can you visit a site by typing the URL in the Windows Explorer bar? If not, do you have another system with a CD burner so you can install a copy of Mozilla?

07-28-2002, 06:23 PM	#4
LawyerRon The Gavel Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Upland, CA Posts: 6,320	DrZ, I've got two systems running 98SE with burners. I don't remember, does 95 have a windows explorer bar? Perhaps the suggestions about downloading Opera or Mozilla, then burning them is the way to go. Also, will IE 6.0 run on WIN95B???

07-28-2002, 06:30 PM	#6
LawyerRon The Gavel Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Upland, CA Posts: 6,320	OK, thanks Z, I'm downloading Opera right now. I'll transfer it over the network to the laptop and that should be a start. Thanks!

07-28-2002, 06:49 PM	#7
LawyerRon The Gavel Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Upland, CA Posts: 6,320	UPDATE: I downloaded opera and I'm on the internet now. I might just keep Opera on there as the drive is a 1.2gb and only has about 400mb free. Thanks all.

07-28-2002, 09:56 PM	#8
Streams Member (10 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 921	IE 6.0 will not run on Windows 95 at all.

07-28-2002, 11:01 PM	#9
LawyerRon The Gavel Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Upland, CA Posts: 6,320	Streams, That's what I thought by the info on Intel's site. What's the alternative if you want IE? Download 5.0?

07-28-2002, 11:09 PM	#10
lpc300 Member (9 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 480	Hi Ron, Think you need to go back to IE 4.0 for Win95. I don't think IE 5.0 will work. If M$'s site doesn't have it, I think cNet does.

07-29-2002, 03:15 AM	#11
Streams Member (10 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 921	If you can find IE 5.5 that will work fine

07-29-2002, 03:23 AM	#12
Streams Member (10 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 921	You can download IE5.5 here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...2/download.asp

07-29-2002, 08:12 AM	#13
LawyerRon The Gavel Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Upland, CA Posts: 6,320	OK, thanks guys, I might just keep Opera on this machine since I'm sure it's a much smaller proggy than IE and this machine only has about 400mb free. It will only need to access the web occasionally.

07-29-2002, 11:30 AM	#14
Harry Member (10 bit) Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: San Francisco, CA US Posts: 922	I think there is also a Dos browser called Arachne. It's only about 5 megs and wouldn't take long to download.

07-29-2002, 10:34 PM	#15
Streams Member (10 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 921	Harry: could you give us a link to this DOS browser.

07-29-2002, 10:46 PM	#16
Xion Member (9 bit) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 282	Lol, I just had to laugh at 1.2 gigs. Heh. I have a 95b computer that has 800 mb, so I shouldn't be talking, though no one uses it. Heh, just get netscape?

07-30-2002, 04:20 PM	#17
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 41,189	Ron: Yes, you can run IE up through 5.5 on 95b, but I strongly recommend that you do not install IE4+ on it. The desktop and OS integration baggage will slow that old beast way down and also destabilize 95. Stick with Opera or put Mozilla on it. There is a reason that Win95C is regarded as the worst version of Win9x made - it came with IE4. 95B is still nice and lean with IE3 or an alternative browser.

07-30-2002, 04:22 PM	#18
DrZaius Member (13 bit) Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 7,030	Streams: http://arachne.browser.org/

07-30-2002, 07:28 PM	#19
Streams Member (10 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 921	Thanks DrZaius

07-30-2002, 08:26 PM	#21
jamesrpm Member (10 bit) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oregon Coast Posts: 768	Just when you think those old AOL disks are worthless. :^)

07-30-2002, 09:34 PM	#22
Streams Member (10 bit) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 921	It depends on the version of windows 95. Windows 95 B and up had a very ugly looking IE. When you first install windows you would have and icon on the desktop labeled "The Internet" which was the old IE. I think i you go to add remove programs ==> windows components there should be a browser buried there either labeled internet explorer or The internet.

07-31-2002, 07:11 AM	#23
*glc* Forum Administrator Staff Premium Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 41,189	95B had IE3. 95C had IE4 with the desktop integration, very unstable. If you want to run IE4+, upgrade to win98, it's a lot more stable than upgrading IE on 95.

07-31-2002, 10:46 AM	#24
Xayd Member (13 bit) Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: nowhere.com Posts: 4,820	Also, a bit late i guess but... >ftp ftp.netscape.com >anonymous >anonymous >binary Then move to the pub directory and find the exe. You can ftp in dos to netscape's ftp site and grab a browser that way .

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07-31-2002, 10:44 PM	#25
LawyerRon The Gavel Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Upland, CA Posts: 6,320	Thanks for the info folks, Opera's working very nicely on this little machine so I think my daughter will just stay with that. She uses it mostly for a grading program in her 4th grade class, though she might have to occasionally d/l a file. The main issue was network access via a pcmcia card. I installed the Linksys model glc recommended and it was on our network in no time. I downloaded Opera to my machine, transferred it to hers over the nework, launched Opera and I was on the net.