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Old 08-07-2002, 08:53 AM   #1
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all out protection from the web...?

hey, i want a couple of programs that is ALL OUT PROTECTION from the web, like second to not using it at all .

any programs? i know ima get zone alert and norton...but anything else i need to get or is that all i need?

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Old 08-07-2002, 09:20 AM   #2
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The only way you're ever going to get 'All out protection' is if you remove your connection to it entirely. Whether it's a phone line or network cable. But firewall programs like Zone Alarm and Blakc Ice do a very good job at giving you some protection. You could also change you Internet Options Security level to restricted sites (that way you won't run the chance of stumbling to some unknown areas). Also, don't run any programs like KaZaa or the like as they open other ports which can be easily exploited. Also, don't share your hard drives.
You're always going to run the risk of someone getting into your machine if you're on the net.
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Old 08-07-2002, 09:23 AM   #3
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Hi Tunguyen,

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The ideal is to disconnect from the internet totally, but if you can't, use these:

Firewall like Zone Alarm, Norton Firewall, or even Windows XP's built-in firewall. Any protection is better than none at all.

Antivirus program like Norton Anti-Virus. Keep those anti-virus definitions current!

The Cleaner to protect yourself from Trojans

Ad-Aware to protect yourself from spyware.

Also, don't use file sharing programs like KaZaa, WinMX, or any like those. It may not be fun as that's what many people do on the 'net, but if you want the most protection, it's a must.

Don't install any programs that you don't know about, and disable auto-install in web browsers like IE.

Using NAV, Norton Personal Firewall, Ad-Aware, the Cleaner, and being safe, I haven't had a virus or a trojan in over three years.
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Old 08-08-2002, 05:54 AM   #5
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doctorgozo...this statement:
"Don't install any programs that you don't know about, and disable auto-install in web browsers like IE."

how do you do so?
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Old 08-08-2002, 07:16 AM   #6
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Zone Alarm and Grisoft's AVG, both free versions are excellent. Spybot- search and destroy, and Ad-aware will get rid of any programs that you may have accumulated that phone home behind your back. Their applacations may not work after cleaning your computer, but if they don't, there are plenty of free programs that do the same thing without planting background programs on your computer. Keep away from file sharing programs. Besides being outright theft, they are riddled with spyware.
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Old 08-09-2002, 07:18 AM   #7
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Old 08-10-2002, 09:31 AM   #8
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Learn how to use a proxy. There is a program called multiproxy witch will let you surf virtually invisable. I played around with it and it worked. It makes it real hard for anyone to trace you.
http://www.multiproxy.org/
(http://tools.rosinstrument.com/proxy/)
It is not easy to set up and use. I only had success on W98.
And finding anonimous proxies is hard.
There was some web pages that let you surf anon. safeweb was one, but its gone I think, They worked like multiproxy in the sense that you went thru their server (I think) and they covered you.


check this site out to learn some good stuff. tips and tutorials
http://www.newbie.org/reference/commview/index.html
http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/home_networks.html


will test for open ports/trojans/privacy

http://www.pcflank.com/test.htm

http://www.wilders.org/free_services.htm


http://www.sdesign.com/securitytest/

https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

http://www.tom-cat.com/adware.html

http://scan.sygatetech.com/

Trust me, its a cat and mouse game that you can get caught up in
and go in circles. Plug one hole only to learn of another. Just use common sense, don't open your PC to strangers.
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Old 08-10-2002, 09:40 AM   #9
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http://www.anonymizer.com/#

there is a free trial one. I never tried it
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Old 08-10-2002, 10:03 PM   #10
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hey briab guy, your thread:

you mean i can use ANYKIND of proxy?

you mean can i make it seem like i have a differ isp? like lets say i want my isp look like i live in korea, is that possible?
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You may want to try GhostSurf . It has a 14 day free trial and uses up to 4 anonymous hubs to bounce you around the world and make it difficult if not impossible to trace you. It's pretty easy to set up and has several neat features. I tried it and though it seemed to work well, poorer internet performance was noticable.

Also, I have tried anonymizer's free trial. Also works pretty well.
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Old 08-11-2002, 07:11 AM   #12
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You may want to try GhostSurf . It has a 14 day free trial and uses up to 4 anonymous hubs to bounce you around the world and make it difficult if not impossible to trace you. It's pretty easy to set up and has several neat features. I tried it and though it seemed to work well, poorer internet performance was noticable.

Also, I have tried anonymizer's free trial. Also works pretty well.
hey, what if im not using the internet. but wanna still make it seem like im from another country?

is that possible with this tool?
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Old 08-11-2002, 08:35 AM   #13
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Tunguyen,
NO, not any proxy, "anonymous" proxy.
As far as your lastquestion, I think you need to learn a new language to pretend u r from another country.

Proxy/WinGate/SOCKS Tutorial

By Jatt

More tutorials at http://blacksun.box.sk


What is a Proxy Server?

Proxy Server is a server that someone (maybe an ISP, maybe a friend) has setup so that when you go to connect to a website, instead of going directly to the site's server, it will take a detour and 1st go through the proxy server and then from the proxy server go to the website. Well, actually, the proxy server first downloads the data for you and then sends it over. So if someone else loads the website and is also going through the same network they will just get the website off of the Proxy Server. Whoever (most likely a System Admin, ISP, etc.) is managing this server will be in charge of setting up the time in which the proxy server refreshes the websites. Everytime a new page is visited, it is saved on the Proxy Server. Again, its up to the person in charge of the Proxy Server to choose how long the site stays on the server. If a user notices that a site is not updated and needs to be refreshed (such as a site that is supposed to be updated daily) all he or she has to do is hit the "refresh or reload" button on their browsers and it will update the page on the proxy server.

Why use a Proxy Server?

There are different reasons. Some ISP's (Internet Service Providers) like it because it cuts down on overall traffic for their network, and speeds up surfing for their users (since the Proxy is closer to them than the site's server, they get less "trip time", less lag or in other words, faster surfing). Users like it because it can help to make it harder to track their activities over the web. This is especially useful since Users can actually chain some proxies and actually go through 3 or more different proxy servers; however it will be hard to find 3 servers that will allow it for one thing. For Another, The speed of the connection will become noticeably slower, especially if we're dealing with servers on different continents. Another reason is if you connect to a larger proxy server, your speed will increase. Note: It's a good thing to find out who runs the proxy server you are connecting through. If its Microsoft don't bother, they'll probably log your every move. If it's anonymous or if it's one that says anyone in the public can use, then go for it. To find out this info you would usually have to check with the proxy server's admin's website.

What is a Wingate?

AN Official definition I've heard from a few people is:

"WinGate is a proxy server firewall software package that allows you to share a single (or multiple) Internet connections with an entire computer network. The Internet connection shared by WinGate can be of nearly any type, including dial up modem, ISDN, xDSL, cable modem, satellite connection, or even dedicated T1 circuits."

Wingate is similar to a proxy server. It connects different computer through port 23 onto a server, which is called a wingate. In fact, it's just a telnet connection. The Wingate will let anyone on the network access the Internet or connect through it to other sites. Due to poorly configured wingates and Administrator's incompetence, there's a lot of wingates that will let anyone on the Internet connect through them, instead of limiting access to people from the local network. Opening the way for anything from an IP spoof on ICQ or irc to full scale abuse. Such wingates are called "Open Wingates" and usually last from anywhere from a few days to maybe a few months until an Administrator either discovers it or gets complaints about some "mysterious" users doing something they shouldn't be. Most likely in that case it's someone connecting over the Internet.

The only benefit for administrators is the ability to put multiple users through the same connection. The problems with it clearly outweigh the benefits. If anyone is going to set up their own wingate, I'd suggest strongly that you know what you are doing and make sure that is configured securely so that only those that are meant to use it, are the ones using it. Another more secure WinGate-like software is SyGate.

>From previous experience working with Wingates both as a Network Administrator and a "remote" user I can tell you that the logs on most wingates are cleared usually every 48 hours. Most businesses and ISP's (especially the big ones) just don't have the need or the resources to log every single thing that happens on their wingate servers.

How do I find Wingates?

Good question. The best way is word of mouth. Failing that, the 2nd best way is to use a wingate scanner. You can scan whole subnets for wingates. A note: IP's in third world countries, the Middle East (except Israel), Africa, and on the @home network all have one thing in common: They all have wingates that are poorly configured and there are usually a few open wingates on their networks. Try scanning them 1st and foremost. Through Unix, the best way is: trial and error. telnet to the wingate through port 23, then leave the user name and password blank and if you get in, you've found one. You might also want to try username and/or password as: wingate. The best windows (32 bit) scanner I have used is: wGateScan v2.2
It is available on many different websites. I got it from this site, it has some other useful stuff on it too: http://www.hotmanscave.com/
To use it, all you have to do is to enter a range of IP address or a hostname. It will telnet to each host in the range through port 23 and will send a message saying "wingate" or something. If the host accepts this message then bingo ! You've found one and it keeps a list of all working open wingates, which you can save to a file or delete as needed.

Wingates with ICQ:

To Configure ICQ to work with WinGate:
Go to WinGate Setup Screen and click on the Proxies Tab
Press ADD
Select Type of Proxy: 'Mapped Link'
Press Create
Under the Settings Group check 'Enable Connections To Proxy On Port.' Put the number 3333 in this window.
Set The Socket Type to: 'UDP'
Make sure that 'Destroy Inactive Sessions after XXX seconds' is NOT Checked.
Make sure that 'Enable Default Remote Host' is Checked and set to: icq.mirabilis.com Port: 4000
For each remote machine:
Press Add.
In 'Connect Client IP' enter the IP of the remote machine
In 'To Host' enter icq.mirabilis.com
In 'Port' enter 4000
Press OK
Now press DONE.
You will now be at the main WinGate setup screen.
Make sure that there is a SOCKS4 Proxy Enabled on Port 1080
Press SAVE
Check it out at your remote machine
Remote Machine Configuration
If you still did not pass the ICQ Registration Wizard:
At the Registration Wizard under Connection Type register as a LAN User.
Choose 'I am behind a firewall or proxy.'
Click Next for the next dialog.
Choose either Socks4 or socks 5 server depending on the compatibility of the proxy server
Do NOT mark the firewall sessions time out
click Next for the next dialog.
Enter the servers' IP address using socks port 1080.
Click Next for the next to see if you have succeeded to register.
If you fail to register, you will receive the a dialog telling you so.
Try one or more of the following:
Click Retry to try again using the same settings.
Hit the Back button to change the firewall settings.
Click Cancel to abort. Reconfigure your firewall settings and try again by running ICQ.exe.
Additional Remote Machines:
For any additional Remote Machines on your network, Do exactly the same procedure as specified in Remote Machine. Use EXACTLY the same numbers and setup. You only have to look up the IP address of the Host one time on any one of the remote machines in its HOSTS file.

Wingates with IRC:

To configure your IRC client to use a Wingate, simply tell it that you're behind a SOCKS4 or SOCKS5 (again, depending on the Wingate. Try both and see which one of them work) and enter the Wingate's IP. If you are asked for a username and a password, leave these fields blank. Since there are so many IRC clients out there, I won't explain further and let you explore your own client by yourself.


What is a Socks Host?

Socks host is pretty much almost the same thing as wingate except it connects through port 1080. In your settings for proxy server in your internet browser (explorer or Netscape) you should notice a setting for socks host. You can enter a socks host. If you have ever used mIRC for IRC, you'll notice a setting for firewall. In that setting leave the username and password blank, leave the port as 1080 and enter a wingate address in the Hostname, then click Use Socks firewall, and try either protocol: Socks4 or Socks5 (whichever works for you). Reconnect and you should notice that your IP address and identify will appear on IRC as if you are connecting through the same IP address as the socks host. Not all wingates will work as a socks host. Remember it has to be able to let you connect through port 1080 or else its no use in irc. Newer IRC daemons can however detect wingate/socks host connections. With the web, it's not useful. It may or may not hide your IP address depending the type of websites you are connecting to. For web anonymity stick to multiple Proxy servers.


Bottom Line:

Socks/Wingates and Proxies can hide your identity or make it harder to detect and log on the Internet, and it may even be legal to do so in 90% of cases but try not to over do it by thinking that "I'll never get caught" by going through multiple proxy servers, wingates, or socks hosts. Remember anyone can be traced back to their original IP address and their ISP. All it takes is a little co-operation with different Proxy server administrators, ISP's and a few law enforcement agencies working together.

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That's it for the Socks Host/Proxy Server and Wingate Tutorial. Questions or Comments should be forwarded to uslijatt@hotmail.com

Jatt


For more info on Proxies and a big list of Proxy servers, wingates, telnet, ftp, and socks hosts try: http://proxys4all.cgi.net/
-note: not all are tested and some might have been shutdown by their administrators. Also the lists are not updated as often as most people would like.
Another Wingate proxy tutorial: http://www.wingate.net/
ICQ with wingate: http://www.visions.demon.nl/wingate/
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