knoppix question

[RoyalT]

Hello all..

I am about to download the knoppix version of Linux, which is a cd bootable version. I have to first download it and then put it on cd right? The size of the file looks to big for a cdr unless I used a dvd disc, or two cdr's(would that work?). Any comments or helpful tidbits anyone?

Thanks

[DragonNOA1]

I don't know the exact method, I only did it once, but you d/l the ISO and then use nero to burn that ISO onto a disk (there is a specific option for this) Then your file will fit onto 1 CD and will be bootable.

[RoyalT]

That would be great on one disc. I am going to d/l later this afternoon, since it will take while. Let you know if I have any problems. Also, how does this version compare to say mandrake or other versions that run on your hdd?

Thanks DragonNOA1

[aym]

What version are you trying to download? "KNOPPIX_V3.6-2004-08-16-EN.iso" fits on a CD, it's bootable, and doesn't require installing anything on the HD.

To burn the image, do not just burn the file, look for an option called burn image, or something similar.

Knoppix is great IMO, good collection of software, and great hardware support.

ok all you do is dl it.. the file is approximatly 699.5 and all you do is use nero burning software or use k3b if you using linux. and burn it in a iso image....i use knoppix right now on my harddrive its the best it gives me accelterated graphic's when installing the vendor's drivers. and my sound works perfect. if you like games i use point2play or wine and play steam , counterstrike, farcry, doom3, world of war craft........

good luck with the burn and install

once on the bootable cd in live mode go into terminal and type su to get into root no password, then type knoppix-installer , follow the installation and bam your done


good luck
.linuxbullet04
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good luck
edit: BY THE WAY I USE 3.6
IF YOU NEED A LINK ILL GIVE YOU ONE ,JUST ASK ME

[RoyalT]

I am really looking forward to trying this out now!

linuxbullet04 if you could give me a link that you've picked out I would appreciate it. Also how do you play those games on linux? Do you use a windows emulator? I want to download it tonight and try to get it up and running by tomorrow. I will probably be in touch...try you on IM first.

The version I was going to download was "KNOPPIX_V3.6-2004-08-16-EN.iso" exactly.

Thanks for all the info.

RoyalT

[sataraid0]

I downloaded it and copied to 1 cd using Roxio and works great.

Just pop into cd drive and you have it.

Good luck.

If you like it you might want to try Mandrake Lunix 10..........3 downloads and copy to 3 disks. Installs on your hard drive right beside your OS and when you boot up get to decide which OS to use. Works great also, however when setting it up chose the KDE desktop. Easiest to use. Believe Maximumpc ran an article on how to install and run it back in Jan or Feb of this year.


.........................Sterling

[RoyalT]

Nice

I think I am going to use nero softare to copy it. But I would like to try the mandrake lunix 10 next. I like the idea of being able to decide on boot up what OS I want to use.

Speaking of MaximumPC I subscribe to that magazine and I must say I love it! I signed up for it around april or may this year. I will have to find that article or issue you mentioned....

Thanks

Trace

[sataraid0]

RoyalT said:
Speaking of MaximumPC I subscribe to that magazine and I must say I love it! I signed up for it around april or may this year. I will have to find that article or issue you mentioned....

Trace, the article is in the Feb issue of this year on page 52. It covers the download and install of Mandrake Lunix 10, taking up 4 pages.

In my book Maximumpc is the only pc mag worth bothering with and PcMech is the only site on the internet for good info.

Enjoy.................................Sterling

[ITlover]

Hello everybody

Iam new to Linux, Dragon can you please tell me what do you mean by the term "burn" i have heard this term first time here.


Regards,

[DragonNOA1]

I said burn as in burning a CD. You've heard of burning a CD before, right?

[sataraid0]

When someone refers to burn in the computer world they mean to make a copy of something with a CD rewritable Drive. Usually made on a blank recordable Cd.

Hope this helps.

PS of course they could mean that something in the computer burned, such as fried which of course isnt good.

[RoyalT]

OKay...I had a real busy week in school, but a day or two ago I had a chance to try and get my knoppix to boot. The problem is I don't have Nero or Roxio, and I tried the trial version of Nero and it wouldn't let me use it???

So now I am thinking that I have to buy Nero or Roxio. Is there any other free downloads or something that can burn my knoppix version to cd. I have Pinnacle systems instant cd/dvd software (it came with one of my drives, I don't like it that much).

Please, a little more help guys??

Thanks Again

[aym]

Download the free version of DeepBurner:

http://www.deepburner.com/?r=download

[RoyalT]

Awesome!!!!!! Linux rules....

I love it! The deepburner works like a charm....I am going to install knoppix on my HDD and use it often, it looks GREAT! Running it as I post this....

Thanks to all for the help (especially Aym_7 for that last post).

Good Day

[aym]

Glad you like it, enjoy your Linux experience

And don't let learning new stuff ruin it for you, it takes sometime, but once you learn how to use it, Linux rules

[RoyalT]

Its me again

I have been running knoppix from the cd and it is as you know great.

My problem is I have a second hard drive that has nothing on it and I want to install it on there. I don't want to use 2GB of space I want to use the whole thing....here inlies the problem. The HDD is 40GB. Is it possible to do this?? I want to have this as my slave HDD because I have XP on my master, and on boot up I want to be able to select one or the other.

Basically I'm stuck, I need a little direction here

Many Thanks for more help...

[mb26]

is it possible to (ie how can you) put drivers for your system (eg wireless NIC) onto the CD before burning it so that it will recognise that hardware.. knoppix has been OK but its not as great as an O/S without the internet..

also how do you replace the background image (before burning).. that knoppix image looks pretty low-res.

[aym]

Originally Posted by RoyalT Its me again I have been running knoppix from the cd and it is as you know great. My problem is I have a second hard drive that has nothing on it and I want to install it on there. I don't want to use 2GB of space I want to use the whole thing....here inlies the problem. The HDD is 40GB. Is it possible to do this?? I want to have this as my slave HDD because I have XP on my master, and on boot up I want to be able to select one or the other. Basically I'm stuck, I need a little direction here Many Thanks for more help...

How is the disk partitioned? Does it have only 1 partition or what?

Is it possible to move important files to another HD, delete partitions and create a new 40GB one?

[RoyalT]

How is the disk partitioned? Does it have only 1 partition or what?

The hdd is new and had nothing on it. I installed it hooked it up as master, so I could install the OS, and the first thing I did wrong was put in the driver cd for the hdd. Next I run my linux cd and in the OS I try to install on the hdd. I tried to partition the whole drive but it won't let me. So I get it installed and everything onto the hdd (using QTParted program), but when I boot up my system without the cd in, it freezes when checking the DMI pool data....

I spent all of my saturday trying to run it from the HDD , is this version not applicable outside of the cd???

Is it possible to move important files to another HD, delete partitions and create a new 40GB one?

I think if you delete the partition you lose all your data.

Last thing I did was hook up my hdd's together, master and slave, then went back into XP, on master, and using partition magic I can see both OS's. PM won't let me do anything becasue it is a trial version, are there any ways around this??

Thanks

[sataraid0]

Think I'm reading your post correctly, you want to inst. Linux on your hard drive and be able to boot into either op system, win or lin.

If this is so, believe you will have to use the 3 disc download of Linux Mandrake 10 and then make mirror copies onto 3 cd"s then copy to hard drive. They will automaticly make a partition for Mandrake.

The Knoppix disc, (as far as I know) will not do that, is runable only from the disc it is on. Hope someone will confirm this, becuz not sure but seems to be correct assumption.

If you check my 1st post in this thread I believe this is addressed in that post.

Good luck.............................Sterling

[RoyalT]

Thanks sataraid0, that is the answer I was looking for.

I have almost finished downloading the 3 discs and copying them. I will then try to install them on my new hard drive and get it all up and running. Let you know if I have any problems

Trace

[Karnevil9]

The knoppix CD can be installed to the hard drive or run from the cd. I don't know about fromatting your hard drives as you mentioned since I never used two hard drives, but I have had knoppix and xp on one hard drive with the ability to choose which one at boot up. www.knoppix.org should give you directions on how to do this. You can also see if this helps. http://www.eleli.de/knoppix/docs/tutorial/english/

[bmrmrb]

Karnevil9, you said you had linux and XP on the one hdd. is it possible to do this when the hdd is NTFS?

[sataraid0]

I have lunix installed on NTFS and works fine. Don't know about FAT hdd's but dont think it makes any difference, but dont take my word for the FAT question.'
good luck

[Karnevil9]

It has been awhile since I had that set-up. I do not remember off hand if I already had a partition ready using PM, or if the linux boot loader took care of it. The system was using NTFS though. I believe that all linux's OS have their own boot loaders, either Lilo or grub that will make a partition for it. Just be sure that windows xp is loaded first, then install Kinux. The linux loaders are designed to override the windows boot manager.

[bmrmrb]

is it possible to install knoppix and xp in the same partition and still be able to choose which to boot to? (i only have the one partition)

i know mandrake comes with a boot program which lets you choose but want to know if knoppix comes with the same thing, and if it works when both are in the same partition.

[Karnevil9]

No, I don't think there is anyway to install it to the same partition. That is, Linux uses ext2, ext3 or riser, as it's file system, while windows uses NTFS or Fat32 file system. So the portion of the hard drive that Linux is on has to have it's own partition for it's own file system. The easy way to do this is by using something like partition Magic and creating a linux partition or a non allocated partition then installing linux there. What I don't know is if Knoppix will take a portion of the NTFS partition and create it's own partition. I think Knoppix as all Linux flavors will do this, but I can't say absolutely.

[RoyalT]

Hello again..

So, I now have two 40gb Maxtor HDD's, one with XP on it, and the second with mandrake 10.0. Both work fine on their own, but when I hook up my linux hdd as slave, and try to load it, it stops loading and gives me this message: error 22 no init file found. Why does it not load when hooked up on secondary IDE cable??

Also, I don't get a choice on boot up which OS to choose, I have to go into the bios and do it manually. I know partitionmagic could help me with this, but I don't have the money to pay for it right now??

Some more help please

thank you!

-Oh and I installed mandrake on hdd hooked up on its own without the other.
Both hdd's are set to cable select. This is a lot of info, thanks for more of your time..

[Karnevil9]

I beleive that's your problem, loading one compleletly seperate of the other. You have two boot managers on two disk on one computer. The computer doesn't know which one to boot from. Try loading mandrakes first disk again and see if you can get to the confiuration set up, and try enter the boot sequence.
Maybe someone else will have a better or easier way to fix this problem, but it is the only way I know how to do it.