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11-08-2005, 02:33 PM
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Installing Linux
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Thats it im sick and tired of Windows messing up all the time i want to install linux. Im considering putting Kubuntu on my computer with Xp home but this may seem stupid but ive never ever installed an os before. Can someone please help me out? Will i need an expert to do this as i dont want to get rid of Xp as i would use it for games i would like to dual boot. Im afraid if i make a mistake i will lose my windows Xp and i dont have the windows disk either. Please help me out. |
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11-08-2005, 02:45 PM
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Do you have an disk available with nothing on it? You cannot install an OS into a disk which is allready fully partitioned - and since you never instaled it then I assume XP was installed on a partition which takes up the entire disk. If you do then your best bet would be to unplug the disk with XP on it and install which ever distro you want on the second disk.
EDIT : You can use a software like Partition Magic to reduce the size of your XP disk and leave room for another distro, but I would recomend one OS / disk.
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11-08-2005, 02:56 PM
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Hi thanks for replying
I have only 1 hard disk which is a 120gb Seagate Barracuda it also has a 4gb partion for System recovery. So you recomend me buying another hard disk to put linux on then because i realy didnt want to splash any money out on buying another HDD. Is it easy creating partions and installing another os? I know i may seem dumb to you but im so fed up with windows and if i did buy another Hard drive i wouldnt know how to install it. 
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11-08-2005, 03:00 PM
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Well some linux distros (to not so user friendly ones) require some skill w/ installing them.. others (like Ubuntu) have a guided installation which is relatively easy. I also am pretty sure lots of distros will detect your XP and set up a dual boot (but I am not 100% percent sure about that). If there is only the new harddrive in then you have very little room to go wrong - you cannot install over the drive w/ XP on it if it is not pluged into the motherboard.
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11-08-2005, 03:14 PM
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Soppose i will have to buy another hard drive then i should be able to get hold of maybe a 20gb one for £20
Then i can just install it on that. Thanks for your help,Off to the local computer store saturday when i get time. Thanks again. |
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11-08-2005, 04:35 PM
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You don't need to buy another hard drive but a blank new hard drive is obvioulsy the easiest. The mandriva installer for one, has a partitioning utility in the install routine which allows you to resize(i.e. shrink) your windows partition and install linux on the recovered space. 10 GB is more than enough. If you go this route, be sure to defrag your hard drive before doing the resize. There may be other distros with this capability.
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11-08-2005, 04:41 PM
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11-08-2005, 04:48 PM
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Thanks guys
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11-08-2005, 10:50 PM
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I'm also installing Linux (Ubuntu) for the first time. After some initial problems like Disk Error 80, I found that my optical drive was crapping out on me. 2-3 hours later, it's STILL installing the base system. It was at 75% (installing kernel) about 2 hours ago, and now it's at 79% (installing linux-386). Is there a reason this is taking forever?
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11-08-2005, 10:56 PM
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My install took less than 45 minutes. I'm running an AMD 2600+ with 512 RAM. How much space did you give for your root partition (/) and your swap partition, or did you let the install program do it for you? Also what filesystem are you using?
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11-08-2005, 11:03 PM
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I'm running a Athlon @ 2.0Ghz with 512MB RAM. I partitioned using the ext3 filesystem, and I let the installer allocate space. I just now terminated the installation and trying again.
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11-08-2005, 11:08 PM
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You should be up and running in under and hour. If it is taking forever to copy the files to your HD, either your CD drive (most likely) or HD is struggling. If you have another one laying around you could try using it just to check.
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11-09-2005, 10:24 AM
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It still didn't install properly. Every time something stalls, such as last time it did get back to the 79% but it sat there forever. Now I'm in the same stage and it's at 6% and stalling "retrieving net-tools". I hear the CD drive accessing pretty heavily but nothing is going on.
The CD was burned at 4x to prevent any errors and the CD drive is an older (but WORKING) 40x CDROM, and the hard drives are 1.3GB and 2.1GB. This is seriously frustrating. |
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11-09-2005, 10:38 AM
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Is the total size of the HD 1.3 and 2.1 GB, or are those the partition sizes? Neither one of those are ideal for a Ubuntu installation and you may be running into space issues on your /tmp and /etc directory during the install.
I would recommend at least 4-5 GB (excessive, yes, but ideal) for your root partition alone. Not to mention your /home partition (if you set one up manually) and your swap. Do you have a drive which is at least 10 GB you could try? Ubuntu, like Windows, will use a lot of space initially. If all you have is a 1.3 and a 2.1 drive, you might want to try a different distro. |
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11-09-2005, 10:48 AM
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I may have a 4GB laying around here somewhere. This is supposed to be an experimental Linux box, since I have two other computers running the other two big OS's (OS X and Windows). What distro should I look at for smaller HD's such as these? I'm only building this computer from spare parts, I don't really want to spend any money on it.
Those are the hard drive's total sizes. I'm installing on the 2.1GB and using the other one for spare space. |
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11-09-2005, 10:51 AM
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Come in Ray...
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Damn Small Linux comes to mind. Haven't tried it, but from what I hear good support for spare (i.e. laying around) parts.
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11-10-2005, 08:17 PM
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11-16-2005, 04:23 PM
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although damn small linux is easy to set up and even install
using it through a pen drive would be the best when you need to save information. |
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11-28-2005, 07:22 PM
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I want to install linux two but I want to do the same but is their any one that can give me reason to presuade my mom a=in to letting me have linux only? help please!!!!!!!
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11-28-2005, 07:38 PM
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reasons to take off windows and install linux good ones.
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