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Old 04-24-2002, 04:23 AM   #1
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Talking Can windoze serve linux?

I have a windows machine with a 56k winmodem which works fine for me. I also have a Linux box with no modem but i will be networking them with a crossover cable. My question is can windows share to internet conection with linux I know this is normally the other way around but this is how i want to do it is it possible

BTW i am running Win98 & RH7.1

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Old 04-24-2002, 05:46 PM   #3
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I'm thinking about doing the same thing, is there anyone who could point me in the right direction for information on doing this?
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Old 04-25-2002, 12:40 AM   #4
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Cool, I have win98 FE so i would need third party software. any recomendations. also how do you setup linux to accept this windows share
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Old 04-27-2002, 09:42 PM   #5
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I have only done this on 98 SE or Me, using their Internet connection sharing. For the Linux machine, when you set up networking for this Network Interface card, I just made sure that the DNS settings pointed to my isp's. Then you set your Win Box's IP address, (the private network address that you defined for the lan card of the win machine) as the "GATEWAY" address for the linux box. Of course the linux box and the Win box have to be on the same private address range like 192.168.0.x x = the unique number. Does this give you enough info? On newer distros of mandrake there is a wizard for your internet connection. Making sure the machines' addresses are correct, the gateway is defined on the lin box and the dns on the lin box seem to be the catch 22 for most people. Finding out how to set up networking for win should be on the www.grc.com site, if you need it. Hope this helps.
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Old 04-28-2002, 05:41 AM   #6
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Ok it is working. I installed analogX proxy and setup linux with the wizard it amazingly was very simple to do

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Old 04-28-2002, 07:59 AM   #7
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Until recently, I have been doing exactly what you want to do. Using a windows machine to serve a linux box. Works great.

I went to the website listed by MaXium Smoke and found an article on DRDoS (Distributed Reflection Denial of Service) internet attacks. If you haven't read it, you ought to. It provides not only a very good discussion of one of (if not the) most recent development in denial of service attack strategies, it also gives you a very good review of just how the internet works. Good stuff. Chilling, but good stuff.

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Ok I am running AnalogX how might i configure IRC so it will work through the proxy. I cant seem to find any info on how to do this. It is just a little annoying.

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Old 04-29-2002, 04:37 PM   #9
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Most of the internet sharing software I have seen use IP Masquerading as the method of sharing the connection. If IP masquerading is used, then your internet connection as far as your Linux box is concerned should be transparent. The only thing that should be holding back an irc connect to say a port like 6667 of a host would be a firewall on the win box. The software you have, could be using a filtering or firewalling procedure. A true proxy server, at least as I understand it, sort of caches the internet to avoid having to run a 'ton of similar packets each time from the internet to a bunch of down stream machines. So like you have 10 users down stream and they all use Yahoo as a home page, the Proxy server stores page info in it's cache so it isn't requesting a bunch of the same packets over and over from the internet servers. If a Proxy method is used, your software would be telling you to seek a specific port on your win server. At least that is my understanding of the process. If IP masquerading is used, I'd be looking for a filter in the way. I'm relying on memory here, but there are differences between a PROXY and masquerading.
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it is deffinitly proxy not masquerading. another thing on the winbox (proxy server) i cannot connect to IRC unless i close the proxy app

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Old 04-29-2002, 08:10 PM   #11
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I took a quick look at the site at
http://www.analogx.com/contents/down...work/proxy.htm

They just may not support that protocol. It does not appear to be listed there. (I don't have enough background with Proxy prgs.)

I turned to a Unix counterpart (Squid) for a cheap and dirty compare. Did a quick search on "irc"
http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-arch...9704/0365.html

If the person answering this has got it right, even this full featured proxy prg. won't handle irc....

This could be an authentication thing. Sorry I can't help you more, but perhaps someone on one of the Win boards has more experience with win proxy servers.
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Old 04-30-2002, 03:53 AM   #12
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Thanks for the reply Maximum Smoke , I will look into it some more


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A win box can't spoof it's ip right?
Another question is why would someone want to place a linux box behind a windows gateway?
I do not get it.
I am new to this so it figures...
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Old 04-30-2002, 10:18 PM   #14
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Another question is why would someone want to place a linux box behind a windows gateway?
I do not get it.
I am new to this so it figures...
Convenience. In my case, I was learning Linux. I didn't want to kick everybody else in the family off line while I played around. For a while I couldn't get Linux to run my PCI modem. I finally did the smart thing and went to Mandrake. They told me that my 3com PCI serial modem was probably using a high numbered com port. I found the modem at ttyS4. All is right with the world. Anyway, the old Windows system (an AMD 586) was only running a dial up anyway. I am not too concerned about security when running dial up. A fixed IP is a whole different thing.

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Old 05-01-2002, 05:14 AM   #15
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Another question is why would someone want to place a linux box behind a windows gateway?
I do not get it.
I am new to this so it figures...
Here is pretty much the same reason as computer hobbiest i have a winmodem and because i had a spare machine laying around

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