My linux goals

[Byte 2.0]

So far, I am getting used to the KDE desktop, surfing the net in linux. I have apache web server running, I can surf in and get default apache webpage. I know where it is on the hardrive and I know i can make changes and input my own HTML pages.

I have learned how to use "userdrake" to add users to my system and I have FTP access from remote or local from my other PC.

However I have a security concerns there. The users I have set up so far seem to have much more access to my linux box then I would like. example I set up user byte and if I use an FTP client to log in to the system, they can go up directories and get out of the byte directory, get up out of the home directory and get pretty much any place but the root. Seems to me there should be a way i can limit the amount of access. Could anyone guide me in the correct direction to do that?


Future Plans is to get make it so if i set up other users so they can have a webpage on my box,

such as my IP address 68.xx.xxx.xx/byte
I know I can have a page at just my IP address.
but I want it more like the IP I used to work for.

Also I am in the future going to forward a domain name to my IP address so that I can have email at my domain. Also I am totally clueless about what mail program comes in mandrake 9 and I am open to ideas.

So there you have it, my current status and My future plans.

I am up for reformatting, reinstalling my OS. Keep in mind I am very green when it comes to linux

[Statica]

You will always have issues if you go out and try to use distribution specific tools to perform your tasks. And to top it off, you really arent learning Linux, you are learning a "proprietary" method of performing a very basic NIX task while using a flaky GUI tool. Your skills arent going to translate over to a generic NIX. I'd suggest that you give up trying to learn NIX through such formats, you will benifit very little from it. What happens when we all discover that some other distribution is much better than Mundrake (I already suspect it), you will not be able to do anything without your *drakes.

[Statica]

Check this out: http://www.allcommands.com/samples/UCR.pdf

[PS: you should be looking to use commands like 'userconf']

[Byte 2.0]

ok, i have the PDF downloaded, thanks.

[jglen490]

Originally posted by Statica You will always have issues if you go out and try to use distribution specific tools to perform your tasks. And to top it off, you really arent learning Linux, you are learning a "proprietary" method of performing a very basic NIX task while using a flaky GUI tool. Your skills arent going to translate over to a generic NIX. I'd suggest that you give up trying to learn NIX through such formats, you will benifit very little from it. What happens when we all discover that some other distribution is much better than Mundrake (I already suspect it), you will not be able to do anything without your *drakes.

There are two ways of looking at the tools issue. You can look at the distro-based tools and say that there are better, more generalized ways of doing things. You can also look at the distro-based tools and discover that you now have more ways of doing the same thing.

Mandrake is not evil because it includes tools. Mandrake is also completely Linux. Whatever you need to do in Linux can be doen as well in Mandrake as in any other distro. But with Mandrake, and many ohter distros, you also have additional tools.

You need to get that straight before you start dissin' some distro that you don't like.

[Statica]

jglen490: I did not diss any tools .. please go back and read my post again, I clarified a point with a person who is starting anew with Linux .. the emphasis is starting on anew with an operating system .. not starting anew with a new distribution.
If you are to teach or help people to survive in a NIX realm then you should learn to teach them the generic tools to survival, not teach them a bunch of shortcuts! And if you take the perceived tone of hostility out of my post, you will see the truth in the statement . The tools are always accessible through whatever GUI is included in whatever distribution is chosen, that isnt the issue.
ESPECIALLY when the GUI tool itself is behaving flaky (please go back and read the rest of the messages from the user).

I'll let the original poster (Byte) handle what is a better means of educating, and from what I've seen from his posts and my PMs from him, it seems apparent that he's learning Linux .. not learning Mandrake.

I didnt say Mandrake was evil, Mandrake is Linux, and yes there are some wonderful tools provided to achieve traditionally cumbersome processes; but also learning the processes gives a better understanding of the fact that commands such as userdrake are not inherent to Linux but merely a distribution specific tool ... but let me illustrate my point ..
Go down 6 mths down the road and RedHat takes the lead as the best Linux distro for kernel 2.6.xx .. and Byte starts trying to create user accounts with userdrake?

The essence of learning Linux is also trying to take the proprietary out of the operating system, this is a survival guide not a "insert linux distribution here" guide. And not to get bogged down by semantics .. but read the subject of the post " My Linux goals " .. i merely posted based on what Byte's linux goals are... not based on what Bytes 'mandrake mastering goals are'

And regarding what "I should get straight" et al. I will let that go, in the hope that you will be posting with more respect to others and with a hint of more +ity.