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03-16-2003, 08:33 PM
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I want to see a PC do this without Crashing
Most people seem to get a lot of pleasure out of bashing Mac's, so I figured I would show what they can do. Bear in mind this was on a relitively slow Powerbook G3-400.
In the attached picture you can see I'm running Safari and on the Mech web site, at the same time, I'm running windows 98 in a mac window, using IE to visit the Mech site, (shared networking over airport, I really want to see a Wintel box do that), at the same time I'm running PC Dos in another Mac window. So thats 3 OS's at the same time and 2 Browser Windows over the same internet connection from 2 different OS's. And not a single lockup or slowdown. If you're not impressed, try this on your wintel box and report back.
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03-21-2003, 06:49 PM
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Hum, 3 not impressed but no reason why. I guess their wintel's do this every day without blue screening.
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03-21-2003, 08:51 PM
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Where I work, we do something like this quite often with an administrative prog called ZenWorks.
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03-21-2003, 11:20 PM
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At work every day, all day long I have 15 browser windows open accessing different network "forests" and "trees", three database interfaces running, 1 Telnet database interface running, 2 interfaces to DSL provider databases, plus recreational surfing on a 500MHz Windows 2000 machine hooked up to a VERY large network and have never in 2 years experienced a BOD so, NO I am not impressed. I have never seen the functional necessity of running more than one OS on a machine. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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03-21-2003, 11:45 PM
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I was wondering what was so impressive about that too, I have more than that going regularly on my side box. Plus I have a online game Infantry going along with the other programs mapping etc in win 98. I thought eveyone did that.. did I mention thats on an old CompaQ 5020
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03-21-2003, 11:59 PM
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The thing that has wondering is why should we be impressed to see your Mac trying to be a PC
 Let me see your Mac run some of the games I have, then I will be impressed. |
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04-04-2003, 09:18 PM
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Macs (running OS X) rule. My PC is for gaming only. Real work gets done on the mac. I remember in the not too distant past installing WinXP in VPC, pirating software via carracho, downloading porn in the web browser, downloading mp3's, and instant messaging at the same time.
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04-04-2003, 10:33 PM
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I'm not knocking Apple, but my PC can and is doing serious work and is very stable. I just installed an ATI AIW Radeon 9700 Pro and I'm watching TV at the same time that my browser is maximized, such a sweet video card.
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04-04-2003, 10:59 PM
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 Maybe it needs an anti persirant to keep it from sweating.
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04-05-2003, 08:32 AM
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why?
i mean i am impressed with the technical side of your accievement, but you're still running os, and if you want win 98 or dos, set up a multi-boot that way, and if you want mac's os: why?? i work with a mac at the schoolpaper and i realy do not know why you would want this. i short i fail to understand the use of this setup. annyway my wierd-computer-parts are impressed |
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04-16-2003, 07:30 AM
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Gad...if it ain't practacal..why ya doin it? multiple OS..
Why that be like driving your Ford and Chevy at the same time. And when it does crash...which one was it? |
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04-16-2003, 04:15 PM
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The "Practical" side is that I only have to carry 1 notebook. I can use all my Windows apps at the same time use itunes with my ipod, compile in x-11, surf the web in windows while file sharing in OS-X. 1 machine for all Uses, Seems practical to me especially while travelling. The shared network switching is especially handy, and something I am unable to emulate on a Wintel box, if someone knows how please explain the procedure.
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04-16-2003, 04:18 PM
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Not log ago, i had my system with WinXP as my base operating system. I have VMWare installed on it, running 3 additional OS's at the same time: 2000 Advanced Server, 2000 Pro, and Linux Redhat 8. I was doing this every day, because I was trying to get my certifications and doing a refresh so my brain is familiar with all the features of all the operating systems. Never had a feeze to this day.
So basically, nope, not impressed. |
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04-18-2003, 10:06 AM
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I'm not impressed, but that doesnt mean that I dont like macs, infact I have done alot more then that on mine. Macs have always been able to do most whatever a PC can read pc disks and such, pc's have (and still dont) not been to great at doing what a mac can. I do agree with you though that the practical side of having a mac with firewire, ipod, itunes, airport, multiple OS's, ect... is very good. Lets not forget though that PC's dont really have to do what a mac does, but the other way around is another question.
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04-18-2003, 10:14 AM
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i'm not impressed... mainly because i knew macs were capable of this. it's cool, though.
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04-19-2003, 12:12 PM
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I think its cool for the machine he's running it on...
When I set up my PC with a new AMD 2700 XP processor, i tried "real world" crap like that too. I ran 35 programs simultaneously (stuff like muliple browsers, kazaa, word, excel, outlook and 2 3D games, Jedi Outcast II and Deer Hunter etc...) i didn't experience much slow down but I thought it was cool that that was the only time i had ever heard my processor "think". Usually it is silent as night... |
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04-20-2003, 03:44 PM
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That's pretty neat that you can run three OS's at once. I run XP, 2k, and redhat, but not simultaneously
I right now have 8 browser windows, 3 explorer windows, three IM windows, and NAV, UD client, and MBM running, all with now problems. It does slow down every now and then, but I think that's because my swap/OS partition is fragmented and I'm too lazy to defrag it. Now I hate to bring up a topic that's probably been discussed before, but why are Macs better? Some of my friends tell me it's because of video editing and graphic design, but I've never had any problems doing either on my PC, although I don't do any complicated work. I've run Quark Express on a PC and it worked just as well as on a Mac. So I'm genuinely curious where the benefit lies. |
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04-20-2003, 04:52 PM
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Mac's arent better, they just get an unfair rep here. PC's are faster (unquestionably) and are much better gaming platforms (for everything else they are both good platforms). I started this thread because some members here had just gotten off of their latest mac bashing frenzy. I know it's perfectly reasonable to expect a PC to do this, but I have never been able to get the shared network switching to work using virtual PC on a peecee. I just thought it was cool that a 400mhz mac notebook could do this without any advanced configuration or "tweaking". Even more so considering the speed of the machine.
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04-20-2003, 04:57 PM
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Macs do seem to get significantly more power in each clock cycle.
I'm curious, how well does gaming work when you're emulating a windows OS? |
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04-20-2003, 05:20 PM
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Never tried it , but I imagine it's awful on that particular machine, it only has an 8mb ati rage pro graphice card. Pinball works fine in 2k, other that that, 3d games would bite. On a power mac with redeon graphics it would be much better if they even run in virtual pc.
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04-21-2003, 05:44 PM
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I like how Macs have a power button on the keyboard. Also the
thinking" light (or maybe its a drive light) that pulsates on the front panel. |
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04-22-2003, 08:38 AM
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Personally, I didn't think it was that big of a deal.... to prove my point, I just loaded Vmware on my PC and proceeded to load what everyone loves to dub the troublesome POS WinME on my WinXP box. Then, I loaded Red Hat 8.0. I had to do the screen captures separately as I wasn't able to display them in a window, but both Red Hat and Win ME are running simultaneously under WinXP. To load things down a bit, I have the TV tuner running on XP along with the web browser and the distributed.net client to keep the processor load at 100%, WinME has the web browser and is playing a MP3 thru a virtual network connection to the XP machine. The Red Hat VM is running a spreadsheet, a word processor and a web browser.
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05-06-2003, 07:27 PM
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Nice, how did u get the virtual network switch to work, won't for me no matter what I do
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05-09-2003, 12:14 PM
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man I have never seen a calm rational disscussion about macs vs. PC's before this is no exception. I build PC's and use all differn't versions of Winows and work with a network full of macs and let me say this...If I could build my Macs and get the kinda software Windows has I wouldn't turn back. Macs are workhorses for audio,video,photo and all the other good stuff I just wish they could get some more software developers (games specifically) backing them. A tricked out G4 is sexy and is very capable of pounding a P4 in the ground
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05-09-2003, 12:24 PM
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macs are cool and all... but i get the sense that mac users (much like amd users) always feel like they have something to prove.
by the way i do have an amd and i don't really care how it compares to intel, because it does what i need it to do. same thing with windows, i don't care how it adds up to mac because it does what i need. but i do have to say that running three os's without a hiccup is pretty darn cool! |
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05-09-2003, 12:37 PM
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Here we go again, all we need is another thread started by someone trying to prove why go MAC or PC.
Look if you like MAC's then get a MAC. If you like PC's then get a PC. End of discussion. |
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05-09-2003, 12:39 PM
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What was the question?
Apples and mac....I rather my mac with cheese.
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05-13-2003, 04:36 PM
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Sorry Iman, I hear you and understand your warning.
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05-15-2003, 11:53 PM
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HAl, that's cool! Right now I have WinXP pro, Red Hat 9, and FreeBSD loaded on my laptop. I have been reading about VMware and it's virtual OS's. I have considering running it on top of Red Hat so that I don't have to reboot to run MS office. (FYI the FreeBSD is only loaded because I am trying to learn the oS so yes, I am just playing)
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