Mozzilla, something you netscapers will like

[Toaster]

Iv`e been a fan of Netscape since its release 1.0 many moon ago when it was a dos app. I also liked Mosaic and used it for years. Now, I finally got a chance to spend some time with Mozilla. This is one fine browser. It will even use your Netscape settings and bookmarks and leave them intact.
This is something I suggest folks try. Its a 6MB download and doesn`t pollute your system like IE does and is available for both the Micky$oft and the Linux/Unix worlds.
You may find it here: http://www.mozilla.org

[Statica]

Been raving abt this for years now .. the Mozilla project is amazing, since the absence of any real programmers at AohelL/Nutscape/Crime Groaner. win32 port is a bit buggy, but less than Nutscape 6 & less intrusive than IE.

[OOPS!]

Thanks for the link Toaster. I will give it a try.


OOPS!

[Toaster]

Iv`e tried numerous browsers and some have very good points and a few bad. Mozilla seems to have a bit of a problem accessing the hotmail site, at least in my case.
I agree EX, this is a very stable Linux app and a very clean install. IE just aint goin on my equipment...period.
When Micky$oft makes a Linux IE, we`ll know they are truly worried.

[mairving]

All I have to say is Bye, Bye Netscape. Man, you guys are right. Mozilla is a sweet browser. Looks like a version of Netscape that has been usuability tested. I also liked the fact that you can increase your font size on the fly. You don't have to go to Edit/Preferences to set things up. Had to get rid of the MySidebar thing, though. I will rate it 11 out of a possible 10. Anyone using it on Windows?

[Toaster]

Marving (or anyone else for that matter),
If you have a hotmail account, please try the site so I may see if the problem is on my end. I tend to customize my browsers and I may have inadvertantly caused an instability.
When I go to the hotmail site and attempt to log on, I get:
"This service has refused the connection" type of reply.
Iv`e been considering dumping hotmail but after 3 years it would be difficult to reroute things.

[mairving]

Toaster, I was able to login to hotmail, check my messages, etc okay. I am using Mandrake 7.2 & Mozilla 0.7.

[Statica]

Do u have cookies enabled?

[Toaster]

Thanks guys,
Gotta be on my end then. Cookies are enabled and the hotmail site is the only problematic site to date. I`ll be dumping RH for a clean install when I reconfigure the server.

[Floppyman]

Don't take offense guys, it's not meant that way, but I find it funny how you guys use linux and mozzilla to access the opposite, Micky$oft's hotmail

Don't worry, I like linux too, as it is better than the M$ OS's, but I just kinda found that interesting.

Sorry for wasting your time...we got out of school early today and I'm bored

[mairving]

You use what you have to. I have a Hotmail account setup for junk mail. I only check it about once a week. I think I setup a Yahoo account at one time also.

[Statica]

Floppy .. here's a term that you might of heard of:
Anti-Trust

Of course I doubt if Bhatia would take too kindly to whats happening now with $hotmail. Do u guys remember when hotmail first came to inception? It was HoTmAiL ... No M$ programmer would do something like that

Of course, the kind samaritan (Pronunciation: 'i-dE-&t) who renewed hotmail.com's internic registration is partly to blame?

Originally posted by Floppyman Don't take offense guys, it's not meant that way, but I find it funny how you guys use linux and mozzilla to access the opposite, Micky$oft's hotmail Don't worry, I like linux too, as it is better than the M$ OS's, but I just kinda found that interesting. Sorry for wasting your time...we got out of school early today and I'm bored

[Toaster]

Well Flopster, coming from a "converted" AMD`er, i`m truely worried!
Ive used hotmail for about 2 years. Its a "straight" shot into Micky$oft to get the "poop" that Micky$oft isn`t too keen on letting out to public. I tied "yahoo" mail and found it "caught" more junk mail. I`m simply doing what Micky$oft is doing to others, "using". Plain and simple.
Aside from this, the site can be accessed from my work to do emails. (when the Micky$oft server works)
Soon, Micky$oft will have to go with a "real" O/S (say..Linux) to keep those wonderfully naughty peoples from crashing thier weak and feeble O/S. (free tips!)
Soo....so there!

[offline]

Downloading it right now. Will flog the piss out of it on Win98se, and report back.

[offline]

Here's the scoop, its like Netscape 6.0, but it works, and it operates with 98 as well as linux, unlike explorer.

I'm about to ************¹ in my pants, it lists the individual server names under the domains, is stable, and renders excellently. This is even better than 4.75.

I'm running out of reasons to use Microsoft products, and I'm MCP certified.

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[Paul Victorey]

The only thing I like better about the NS6 distro as compared to plain mozilla is the search options in the sidebar are better, searching better engines. And the search is really the best part of said sidebar.

[Toaster]

Hello Paul,
It been a while since iv`e seen activity from you.
Mozilla seems to be a great browser. It doesn`t "eat" your system like IE does and under a Micky$oft O/S it seems well behaved. It still needs some work but for now....it does fine.

[Floppyman]

Hey guys,

I wouldn't say converted Toaster...hehe I'll be getting a K6-3+ shortly, but don't worry I'll give Mozilla a shot yet.....as soon as I get my secondary system built..this dualie is going linux (errr probably triple booting...we'll see). I think for games like Counterstrike a linux server is a lot better anyway. I constantly get corrupted file errors in win2k and it's starting to drive me up the wall, quite frankly Red Hat 7.2..here I come. One linux comes and works properly..mozilla and more "free" linux will hopefully follow. I like linux interface, I hate always doing command line, but I guess that's just a matter of getting used too.

As for Netscape 6..I have had nothing but badluck with netscape's latest..funny thing is though I have not tried it on linux yet, however it managed to crash both Micky$oft windows 2000 and win98se.

Here's another question..how easy is it to set up a filesharing on linux..with a winX machine networked? Thanks.

[mairving]

Floppy, it took me about 30 minutes to set up samba sharing. It's not all that bad if you know your way around. I don't think that RedHat is at 7.2 yet. Mandrake has a 7.2 and there's is a RedHat Distro. I have installed probably every flavor that there is of Linux. The installs were not to bad on any of them. Mandrake is the easiest still. Not quite so sure about 7.2. I had problems getting it to run on my system. Probably the new Xfree 4.0. The new kernel, 2.4, should be out in the distro form by the time you are ready too.

[Floppyman]

Didn't know if it was out yet either but assumed so, as RH 7.2 is based on the new 2.4 kernel right? I have had enough troulbe installing 7.0 on my dualie with all the new hardware I have...for example my promise Ultra ATA/100 controller that is not suppoted in 7.0 with the 2.2 kernel...hopefully 7.2 will fix that. I know I can just download the kernel..but I'm not familiar enough with linux yet to try to attempt to install a kernel....hopefully someday though.

[Toaster]

I recently downloaded the 0.8 version of mozilla. It seems to address some issues but STILL I cant loginto the hotmail site. This is after a reinstall of RH 6.2 (2.2.15-SMP).
Strange......
The error is:
The site (hotmail) has refused the connection.

I suggest it may be an SSL error but cannot find anything on this in the browser...anyone have input on this?

[Dave22]

It's quite impressive. Just installed 0.8 on my RH 7.0/KDE 2.1 system and it's doing well.

I even logged into Hotmail without a problem.

Crud, I just like being able to see my damn fonts finally! LOL

[SARGE]

If I could figure out what to click at the site, I'd try it.

[Statica]

http://www.mozilla.org/releases/

Gives the list of ports to download

[SARGE]

Got it. If I could figure out how to get rid of the sidebar on left, it would be much better. Looking at the site, all the "builds" confuse me, but maybe they don't apply.